• fracture [he/him] @beehaw.org
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    11 months ago

    you’re not wrong, but you are being unnecessarily antagonistic, and i would appreciate it if you didn’t push people against unionizing by being antagonistic about it. it’s hard enough to get a union going without shaming people for not doing it sooner

    people are already suffering at the hands of capitalism. you don’t need to throw it in their face. and, y’know, maybe some people from the game industry browse lemmy. it’s almost like they’re probably just people like the rest of us

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      11 months ago

      I sort of get your point, but sometimes the truth also stings a little and people need to be aware that when it’s good is when you need to prepare for the downturn, that is the moment to prepare your nestegg, unionize etc.

      As I said in the other comment, the Union has been villofied by corpo’s that people in the US think they are only to antagonize the company.

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        11 months ago

        you can explain all of that and be nice about it, you don’t need to assume that people’s motivation is to “get theirs”. like you say, most people have grown up with several decades of propaganda, it’s not their fault they see unions as bad. it takes time to undo that stuff and it’s hard enough as it is without assuming their motivations or blaming them for something they had no control over

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          11 months ago

          You seem to be making a mountain out of a molehill. Attacking the tone of the message adds nothing.

          The “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” view of the world is something most Americans ascribe to. It might not apply to an individual but it definitely describes the group.

          Yes years of corporate propaganda made an impact, I hope for them they can be the change they want to see.

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            11 months ago

            it’s not a controversial take to say a message’s tone affects how it’s taken. could you explain why it’s so difficult for you to hear the request “could you be nice”?

            or do you genuinely believe a message’s tone doesn’t affect how it’s received? because if so, i’ve been wasting a lot of effort on being nice to you, myself :p (that’s a joking tone, because it’s almost certainly not going to be obvious)

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              11 months ago

              You know what, you’re right. I just hope that workers in the tech industry can finally see that they should form collective actions.