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Ok, I can get sort of disagreeing the wildfires are from climate change - that’s a couple of logical steps you have to make. But “It’s not causing anyone to cough” is plainly ludicrous. It was making me cough when I went outside.
“It doesn’t smell bad”? Maybe they have COVID and lost their sense of smell altogether? It certainly smelled bad to me. And if you thought it smelled great - wow. I just don’t ever want to be around you if you like those sorts of smells. I can’t see it actually working with anyone who’s ever been in wildfire smoke before - like you don’t need science or education or anything to notice if it makes you cough, or tell something doesn’t smell great.
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I kind of gave up trying to convince my family that this isn’t healthy, especially my high risk family members. I don’t get why they just don’t seem to care, especially the ones with major health problems.
Same … it’s clear that attempting to convince my own family is just as effective as speaking to a charcuterie board. Want to breathe the smoke? Fine, go ham. I’m fresh out of pity for the science deniers.
But that’s the thing, the people in my family refusing to take precautions have health issues and use science when it keeps them alive! Like, which is it???
I’m 38 with good breathing but I have multiple sclerosis. Wildfires make it so I’m unable to move my legs or do much of anything. It’s real and some people are idiots.
I effectively grew out of my mild asthma when I was younger (especially as I stopped being around cigarette smoke), so I had a bit of a panic when I had symptoms for the first time in 10 years last Tuesday before I learned why it looked like a doom map outside…
I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand that breathing particulate matter into your lungs isn’t a good thing… A child should be able to understand this. My 10 and 12 year old INSTINCTIVELY understood this… they pulled their shirts up over their nose on their own when we woke up and went outside on the first bad day.
I don’t get this weird need to be contrary to everything, doesn’t it get exhausting?
Not for the rich oil tycoons. But yeah, for the brain washed masses it must be exhausting. But I think that only furthers their rage and obstinence. They’ed rather that than admin they’ve been fooled or used.
It comes from the same place as the deeply held but mutually exclusive beliefs that the government is both totally stupid and incompetent but also so capable and efficient that they are somehow carrying out massive conspiracies on the entire citizenry.
They’re not just doing it to do it
well that’s part of it, but it’s mainly “if we accept that climate change is real, then it’s us who are at fault for it; as such we need to discredit and downplay it and anything resulting from it”
like they have a vested interest in saying that it’s not a big deal, it’s a conscious choice that they’re making; they’re not being stupid (or at least not in choosing to deny this)
What’s that saying, where’s there’s smoke there’s liar?
“This doesn’t kill anybody, it doesn’t make anybody cough, this is not a health event,” he added, contradicting public health experts and basic common sense. “This has got nothing to do with climate. This is wildfire smoke. This is natural. This is not because of climate change. This is not because of fossil fuels.”
Seriously, we should start making laws that put rich powerful assholes in jail when they start spouting obvious lies that make the world a worse place.
I can get sort of disagreeing the wildfires are from climate change
Eh, no. Wild fires would also occur without climate change, but anybody denying that climate change isn’t making wild fires (and a hundred other things) worse is not making a “couple of logical steps”, they’re denying science.
I’ve also been seeing so many comments on news posts about the fire talking about how they are intentional fires.
I don’t understand how these people are allowed to spread such misinformation 😔
They are basically living out “Don’t Look Up”.
Think of all the jobs the wildfires will create!
Why not tell them that KCN is actually an extremely healthy mineral and get rid of this Problem once for all!..
Eh, right-wing media says a lot of things. This is definitely one of their takes of all time.
You just buy a big slab of meat, put it on a coat hanger on the patio, free smoked meat!
You don’t need a high level of education to know you shouldn’t inject bleach into your system to kill COVID-19, and yet people died listening to Trump’s suggestion.
“people died listening to Trump’s suggestion” is undoubtedly true, but are there any documented cases of someone actually injecting bleach, much less that leading to their death?
I can’t find the article anymore because it was back in 2020 when I read it but a woman claimed her father injested bleach after seeing Trump’s press conference and died from it. The only articles I find now are upticks in poisonings. Maybe it was debunked since then?
Anyone remember when COVID was “good for you”? How did that turn out for them?
The world is burning down around us and these clowns would sooner burn with it than admit there’s anything wrong…
There will come point where they have no choice but to admit something is wrong, no matter how much try to ignore it.
It’ll be when they’re stepping on your head trying to save themselves…
I used to think that way, but climate change doesn’t discriminate. It will be the great equalizer. When global famine first hits, those with the most hoarded will become targets and no amount of private contracted bodyguards will be able to protect them. With that being said, it’s easy to be doom and gloom about climate change but please have faith that ultimately humanity will persevere even though it will get quite bad for a time. Remember, climate doom is just another means to encourage apathy and inaction. All hope is not lost, and future generations will pull thru.
I hope you’re right. It would still be to late but to hear them admit guilt / denial would be astonishing.
#NotTheOnion
canadian govt really needs a more active forest service - letting it get out of hand like this is a bit ridiculous.
Canada has an absolutely massive forest service as well as an insanely large forestry industry overall. They’re better equipped to deal with this sort of thing than pretty much anyone else in the world. Once you reach this magnitude of crown fire there’s really very little you can do.
They’ll spend millions of dollars dumping water from choppers and planes, pushing in firebreaks that won’t hold it - there’s really nothing left to do at this stage but get out of the way. You can’t hose a crown fire out, people on the ground are just risking their lives.
Firebreaks are ineffective because this thing is causing spotfires miles and miles ahead of the front.
Are we ready to take climate change seriously? If not, this is your life every summer from now on.
Signed, a wildland firefighter and forest worker from Australia.
Yes, the reason people are losing it this year is because the winds are going opposite their usual direction so the smoke is going South. These fires happen every year but this year is much worse due to a dry winter.
In Alberta, where I am, there have been cuts to fire service, in some cases on idealogical grounds, which is frustrating. The fires people are worked up about are on the other side of the country but just pointing out this is nation wide and much worse than previous years (earlier, more, etc).
It’s a rock and a hard place situation. One of the reasons the fires are so bad now is that for many years much effort was put into preventing fires. It allows a lot of fuel to build up, so that when the fire finally gets too big to handle it’s got a huge reserve to burn through. We may have to endure a few years of huge fires to get back down to the usual background level.
Also, low precipitation in the winter leading to drier conditions.
Yeah, Canada needs to get this under control. I sat in traffic for an hour this week to get to the beach and then when I got there… the air was full of smoke! What a waste. US politicians need to take a hardline on the Canadians here.
