• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Atheism isn’t a religion, it’s the absence of it. I can’t fix them because they’re not a group or club. Also, they don’t follow a book with a god that tells them to “take the dust out of your own eye first”, Christians do. So maybe follow your own teachings, instead of trying to impose them on others

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      11 months ago

      Atheism isn’t a religion, but it’s a belief system, and edgy atheists who pick fights for no reason are indeed annoying.

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        I’m not an “edgy atheist” if anything I’m an anti theist, who used to be an evangelical Christian, until I got out of that cult after two decades of sexual abuse, brain washing and hate filled teachings. So now that I’m out, naturally not only do I not believe in a god, but I straight up despise religion and the damage it does to people

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      And “Christian” isn’t a homogeneous group – it’s also something anyone can claim membership of. By itself the label doesn’t tell you if someone is a good person or an asshole.

      Apart from “this person believes Jesus Christ was real” it doesn’t tell you anything.

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        It doesn’t have to be homogenous. The belief that you mention, though, is based on someone from a book without evidence who is supposedly quoted as giving the rules that those people are to live by. You can’t claim to be part of that group and also claim that you don’t believe the person who is the figurehead of the belief. That idea has to be shared in order to claim membership in that group.

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      Atheism isn’t a religion,

      Good thing you told us - it wouldn’t be obvious otherwise.

      not a group or club.

      The whiny ones sure do seem like they desperately want their own club.

      “take the dust out of your own eye first”

      Oh, I don’t know… dust in the eye can be a pretty uncomfortable thing.

      your own teachings,

      They’re not mine.

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        You have a selection bias going on, there. You will tend to notice the “whiny ones” more often, because they are whiny. This is the same reason as to why, to you, it’s not obvious that it’s not a religion.

        You’re also going line by line on the comment which I should tell you is omega cringe and completely misses the main thesis of the comment in exchange for being kind of smarmy and quippy, which I would say is very unchristlike. Their point is that self-identifying as christian is a positive group, it’s a group you choose to identify as. Being an atheist is something you are because you don’t identify as belonging to any religion, it’s a negative group. Atheists are the non-black non-ravens, they constitute literally everything that isn’t. Which one do you think would be the more coherent, singular group, there? It’s like if you had a classification of all chairs being, things with four legs that you sit on. Atheists, in this metaphor, would be everything that isn’t a chair. Even with that shitty definition of a chair, that includes horses, chairs will still be a more coherent and singular group, than “everything that isn’t a chair”. That’s their point.

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        Yeah you sound worse than annoying atheists, like, a lot worse. If you can’t understand why they’d feel alienated by a society that loudly declares itself Christian then you need to get out of your bubble.

        My beef with annoying atheists is how much many of treat it like a sect of Christianity instead of dechristianizing, but they’re typically new to their belief system, that’s ok, converts and apostates alike tend to be annoying for a while.

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          If you can’t understand why they’d feel alienated by a society that loudly declares itself Christian

          Oh, the poor things… at least they still have white supremacism, nationalism and capitalism to cling onto, eh?

          but they’re typically new to their belief system

          Nice of you to admit that they haven’t really managed to escape the whole “belief system” thing… in spite of their claims.

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            Anyway next time you wonder why people don’t associate religion with morality and why many who seek religion write off Christianity check the mirror

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              Anyway next time you wonder why people don’t associate religion with morality

              People are supposed to associate religion with morality? What a Christian thing to say.