• The Pantser@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Tell the wife to use telegram or another messaging client. There are plenty of perfectly good alternatives to imessages.

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      1 year ago

      We use messenger, which I also don’t like. Its ridiculous. If these fucken tech giants aren’t going to right interoperability standards then someone needs to force them to. We made all this shit to make life better and somehow have forgotten that was the fucken goal.

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        1 year ago

        For better or worse you happen to be using the one messaging app that is broadly agreed to be worse than iMessage.

        Signal and Telegram are far superior, even putting aside the most glaring flaws of the other two.

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            I’ve successfully converted a spouse, which I don’t think is out of the question w.r.t who I replied to.

            I’ve also converted my main friend group, but appreciate that’s insurmountable for a lot of people - genuinely, people hate change after all. I’m lucky to have a lot of friends who work in tech and are receptive to trying new things.

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          Its convenience. Why have both of us download a new app strictly for pictures when she is already on Facebook, and I have a dusty one with no posts for a decade. Plus getting someone in the US to download a 3rd party messaging app is like asking them to respond to the Nigerian Prince for his offers.

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            1 year ago

            Fair enough. It’s kind of an oxymoron to worry about the trust of a given 3rd party messaging app while using products from a known, wide scale, repeated privacy intruder like Meta, but you have what you need in terms of convenience so I won’t make a further case for an alternative.

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              1 year ago

              Believe me, I know. I wouldn’t be using it if the people I need it for would switch. But people don’t give a shit here. I gave up trying to move apps. The rest of my shit is arch linux and de googled. This is the last hold out.

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            1 year ago

            I’m not criticising the UX of iMessage for Apple to Apple comms. It’s solid, and was leader-in-class for a very long time.

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          1 year ago

          interoperability is the capability of a product or system to interact and function with others. Why would that force them to all function the same? Why would that be bad for us as consumers? Why does it matter how many choices we have if those choices restrict us to using a specific one? Interoperability solves all of these and causes none of the problems you are stating. Of course they have no incentive for doing this as it doesn’t benefit a corporation, they’re only incentivized to entrap people in their ecosystems cause it makes them the most money. Different messaging standards is one of the ways they keep us locked in. This is a choice, too, one made by the tech giants for you with no choice in the matter. You can’t send a nice quality picture from iMessage to Google Messages, get fukt.

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              Choice is nice, but my problem is the choices can’t communicate with each other correctly. Thats an issue. Its an issue when our communication devices are not effective at communicating what we want to. We are already seeing the bare ass minimum right now, which is just SMS. They’re doing that now, the bare minimum. If Apple was forced to fix their shitty conversion instead of it just picking the worst resolution possible, they would do it. It doesn’t matter what app I use because most people in the US use iMessage, and thats where I do most of my communicating.

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      1 year ago

      That’s certainly less desirable option for many. But why is wanting modern cross platform messaging so bad? It works iPhone to iPhone, works Android to Android, theoretically if there were other players (maybe if BB or Windows still had phones) they could also achieve the same using RCS with Android. This argument is and has always been about default protocols that phone can communicate with. Of course downloading 3rd party chat apps, emailing them, mailing them a letter, using a cup and string, stopping communication because they chose to use a phone from a different manufacture are all still “options”.

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      1 year ago

      That doesn’t solve the interoperability problem. You can’t guarantee who has what messaging app. You shouldn’t need a 3rd party app for basic functionality, anyway.