I went searching for something today and instinctually clicked on a reddit link. Fortunately the sub was dark for the protest anyway, but it’s crazy how ingrained in me it is to go to reddit for everything.
Unfortunately now we’re going to have to get used to clicking on those clickbait tech articles like “TOP 10 FACEBOOK ALTERNATIVES 2023” to find information, and weed out the crappy blogs.
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Muscle memory is also hard to break. I had to remove Apollo from my homescreen :D
I made a shortcut automation in iOS to close Apollo as soon as it’s opened. Works & has caught me in my habit a few times already. lmao
Same lol. Replaced the icon with the Lemmy app for Android and here I am 👍🏻
I replaced my reddit icon with Jerboa. I’m working on my own client in the mean time, though
I know the feeling. I had to put it in a folder “Do not use”. It’s like the first rhing I check in the morning. This lemmy thing has potential. I miss Apollo so much though. Jesus if Christian ported Apollo to use a lemmy backend I’m not sure I’d even notice it wasn’t Reddit. 😀
I put Discord in its place, my muscle memory has been opening it all morning.
I keep unlocking my phone then opening Apollo, then realising what day it was then locking my phone again.
In a constant endless loop.
I also had to remove it from the Home Screen. The lemmy iOS app in TestFlight Mlem is actually pretty good.
Did the same! Now I don’t have to think twice before clicking it.
The fact is that there is some useful info that only is on Reddit. No shame in looking that stuff up since that’s where it is.
The main thing is to stop using Reddit as your go-to time waster/doom scrolling app
Now I will doomscroll on Lemmy. Problem solved
Same. I’m feeling so good about myself now.
Tbh the lack of people and content here has limited my doom scrolling tremendously.
Also helps that everyone here is like a kid on their first day of high school or college. Zero toxicity! 😎
Give it time. The toxic trolls will soon realize they’re all just talking to each other and come to the fediverse for fresh meat.
I don’t think trolls think that hard. It’s all for instant gratification. There are few dedicated and motivated trolls. It’s a low effort sort of deal.
Actually for the first time I’m contributing now, on reddit I tried a few times but I never liked it, and never did more than liking.
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If people stop providing useful information on reddit, it’s usefulness will disappear over time.
There are also lots of people using Shreddit to remove their entire log of comments.
I’m debating whether or not to do that with my account… I have several comments with solutions to specific tech issues, documentation on specific things. At the same time, I feel less and less comfortable with Reddit benefiting from information users provided for free.
If you don’t have too many maybe consider posting them on Lemmy as new posts before deleting them? Keeps the information discoverable and helps populate Lemmy with good content, while giving Reddit the middle finger - TRIPLE WIN!
Grab those comments and repost them in a place where you are more comfortable. You can keep that knowledge out there without needing to keep your account if you don’t want to. Some of those apps actually give you your comment history in a file when they’re done.
I’m personally planning on wiping my account (I’m waiting for my GDPR export) and getting all the important stuff I wrote on my own “property”: on my wiki (or, rarely, on my blog)
(For those interested: https://wiki.thefrenchghosty.me/ - no ads, no trackers)
I’ve been on the fence about wiping my account as well. It’s just hard for me - my history, wholesome interaction with users, friends made, how many people I’ve helped, I’ve written a few guides. Man it just sucks. (the largest guide I’ve written, for Vindictus, is partially outdated, but also I put in sooooooo much effort into it and I’m really proud of it. maybe I’ll download and save as a .doc or something)
I think I just need to hear someone’s stance on it, hear their points, and be persuaded
I also need to figure out -when- to do that if I end up doing it. I assume before the 30th, but I’m not sure if some have started doing it already, and why
Honestly? ChatGPT (4) is basically a stackoverflow 2.0. It’s my goto when I want help with specific problems. There are alternative options, is what I mean.
I deleted all my comments on Reddit. I do not want them to benefit from my knowledge even if it might inconvenience someone else
The big problem with chatGTP is that you never can be sure that it’s right, you need to check it. On reddit and sites like it, you can see the amount of upvotes, which shows you if they are right or not.
I have seen a lot of highly upvoted comments on reddit which were very, very wrong.
I still use reddit for help on things. But for topics that I’m less knowledgeable about (so I can’t gauge the accuracy myself), I try to just take everything with a grain of salt.
True, but the chance of it being wrong is substantially smaller than the chance of chatGTP dreaming up something.
Yes, I always enjoyed getting down voted for the correct answer.
It helps that if something is wrong on Reddit, another redditor usually points it out since there are many eyes on any particular thread.
One of my favorite parts about reddit is people will always be there to call out your BS, whether it be via downvotes or a comment. I always appreciated that because more times than not, they will tell them they’re wrong and explain why, sometimes even with sources. A lot of the time, they redirect people to better sources of information, like a telegram group about a custom android rom
Of course, this isn’t true 100% of the time, not even downvoted comment is wrong - like the other person commented, it’s fair to take it with a grain of salt
That’s why my solution for this is to research a topic EXTENSIVELY by reading tons of threads and comments about it, put them all together in my head and consider them all, and then decide on the best outcome/answer based on all the research combined. That way, I don’t just rely on 1 person’s response and hope they’re right. For most things though, them being wrong might not even make a huge negative impact
I’ve found that Redditors also generally have our backs - they warn us about stuff to do or not to do, that companies don’t warn us about because it would otherwise profit them
The big problem with chatGTP is that you never can be sure that it’s right
A lawyer wasnt aware of this and used it to do research on a case. It went poorly.
Jup, legal eagle fan here (:
We also don’t know if search engines will pay the new fees to index reddit, so that could potentially make it disappear faster.
Really? Doesn’t google and similar search engines use web crawlers, outside of the devloper API of reddit? Or is that different for reddit?
Currently yes, but I’d imagine they’re also going to disallow crawlers via robots.txt or what’s to stop OpenAI and friends from acquiring the corpus that way? Though of course that assumes this whole thing is really thought through which might be a big assumption on my part…
I think they will probably whitelist google’s and microsoft’s webcrawlers, seeing as it’s kinda a huge source of traffic for them. But I’m far from an expert in this field XD
I think this is exactly right. I plan to use info available on reddit as reference material if needs be, but I will no longer be posting and therefore creating more content for reddit to sell on in the future.
Personally it feels like working for free by posting on Reddit. Id rather create content about my hobbies here where no one is making money off of it.
I’d be interested to know from someone more tech-savvy whether googling advice, and then clicking on the cached version, still counts as viewing reddit. Because I’d ideally still like to append reddit to my google searches without giving them ad views.
AKA if someone monetises advice given for free, we should be able to freely access it.
undefined> The fact is that there is some useful info that only is on Reddit.
I mean reddit has become a insanely huge knowledge base for all sorts of technical problems and other topics. I’ve searched with site:reddit.com so many times for problem solving.
I setup TimeLimit to block the reddit apps for some time. I hope it can help you with the redde-addiction.
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My reddit account never posted a lot but out of principle I am planning on deleting my account, if they do reverse the changes before the 30th.
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I never knew any component of Reddit was ever open-source? But yeah, that AMA was so bleak. I’m enjoying Lemmy a lot right now, so maybe I can do without Reddit.
It’s just that Reddit has been like my one cultural constant in the last decade. I have ADHD, so I tend to go through phases of things but the sheer diversity of Reddit and all the years of history of the site meant that it’s been a really big part of my life. I know that’s probably similar for a lot of other folks.
@WatTyler @Sailor_jets #Reddit used to be #FOSS years ago, and there’s an archived version of their code here:
https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit
IDK if anybody’s actually using it to host a forum site though.
Same here. It was equal parts freeing and uncomfortable. Recommend https://redact.dev/ for anyone looking to do the same.
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I keep opening Relay today and immediately quitting. Anyone use an app for this? Maybe just need to replace the app location with a new app.
Yeah I replaced the Relay icon with Jerboa.
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My browser has an option to turn sites into a progressive web app, so I have been using those for fediverse sites and put them where RIF used to be on my home screen.
Jeroba if you’re on Android. Can’t remember the Apple one
The Apple one is called Mlem, but it’s still buggy and limited when you want to search for new communities.
This app looks so good to be honest, already feel smoother than Reddit BS app.
I made a folder with reddit and Mlem, the Apple Lemmy client, so everytime I want to use reddit I click on the folder and see Lemmy as an alternative.
I deleted the RIF icon from my main phone screen so I wouldn’t instinctively click on it. That void feels real weird.
I deleted RIF from its spot after 11 years and put Jerboa in the spot. Those are big shoes to fill.
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i removed my reddit bookmarks and added lemmy instead. now i instinctually come here instead.
Fr, it is very hard to break. I instinctively add “reddit” to the end of every search.
I know, it’s so much harder to find answers to anything past very simple answers with Google these days. After the blackout, I’ll probably do far less jumping straight to Reddit, but I feel like it’s still going to be unavoidable sometimes.
After the subreddits go un-dark I will probably still use this for searching until there’s a LLM set-up to “replace” google searching (which Bing is Still Not, imo).
Agreed, I use reddit for a lot of my research be it for purchasing decisions or other random questions I think of during the day.
Unrelated but we have similar usernames :)
Hahaha that is amazing! I was going to go for my cryptic variation of ‘1bluxjay’ only to realize that I can have the actual username. Been a long time since I’ve been able to do that.
This speaks to how bad Google has gotten IMO - I do it too.
Yup
Yeah, even if I quit using reddit as a community tool the information value is huge. When something breaks on a niche subject they can be the only easy to find source.
There is a lot of helpful information there. I hope that some of that can stay as search indexing on archive sites is difficult.
All that said, I just deleted my accounts I had with them. If I use it, it will be without being logged in and only the odd search for something I need.
And hopefully, improvements to platforms like Lemmy grow to where I can search for what I need there or find the best community to ask a question in a few seconds rather than 5-10 minutes. No hate, just where the platform is at right now with the influx.
I put reddit on my dns blocking list for now. Prevents accidental access. Replaced the buttons on my browser and phone with lemmy, since it’s the thing i probably zombie-touch by habit.
It’ll take time. I think eventually we’ll have enough knowledge on Reddit alternatives like Lemmy where we can add “lemmy” to our search strings instead of “reddit”.
We all have to do our part to talk about the products and services we use here on Lemmy. Does anyone know of a good community similar to /r/buyitforlife on the fediverse?
Is there a way I can follow that without having to create a new account? Still trying to figure everything out
Search for a community and write !buyitforlife@sh.itjust.works as you’re search term.
How are those search terms meant to work? I’ve seen so many people recommend searching for communities by adding an exclamation point in front, but that has never produced any results when I search using Jerboa. Is that actually supposed to work, or is the exclamation point a placeholder that I have to know to exclude or replace with something else?
I’ve had the same experience, I’ve found better luck subscribing to outside communities through the websites on desktop but it’s still not 100% for me. Jerboa really needs to find a way to handle community links properly.
https://beehaw.org/c/buytiforlife@sh.itjust.works
(replace the beehaw part with whatever instance you are registered with)
Interesting! Thank you!
Someone needs to make an extension that seamlessly manages federations and servers like that, since it is going to be the worst part of switching
Just to note, this only works if someone on your instance has already made the instance “know” about the community by explicitly searching for it in the search menu - otherwise you’ll run into a
404: couldnt_find_communityerror.
I also found this GreaseMonkey script that simplifies the entire process by allowing you to redirect any community to your local instance: https://sh.itjust.works/post/70143
This really simplified my workstream for adding new communities. There is also a script to reformat the site to look more like old Reddit if you are really wanting to feel at home. Some great work being done in that community.
The problem with that is, that not all instances use “Lemmy” or even “feddit” in the URL.
Hopefully search engines can eventually work around that.
I think Brave search goggles can do exactly that
Sparks an idea, I briefly remember google or some search engine letting you search for forums, a browser extension which did this for a few different larger forums and then aggregated the results could yield a similar result.
I think the one you’re looking for is kagi.com!
Nice to see Kagi get mentioned!
I’ve been using Kagi for about a month now, and I love the quality of results you get. I’d say it’s still a niche product for people who need to do a lot of searches but can’t be bothered to dig through commercialized ad-driven SEO’d crap. I haven’t used the personalization features like lenses much, although it’s useful for finding PDFs and answers to programming questions.
What do you think about Kagi?
Never heard of it, just went to have a look and they had a “give it a try” button with a “best headphones” example. Note the very first result. Given the context of this thread, pretty funny 😅
What do you mean? Who would register at such a place.
Idk how helpful this is, but LibRedirect basically redirects all reddit links (and other websites like youtube, twitter, tiktok) in your browser to a privacy front-end that doesn’t do any tracking or ads or things like that which is better than using the official reddit site.
Redirector is another option for this. It’s a generic tool so it doesn’t have baked in rules, you have to specify your own. I use
^https://(old\\.|www\\.)?reddit.com/r/(.*)for the source pattern andhttps://your-favorite-libreddit-instance/r/$2as the destination.Thanks for this. It would be cool if it was available for FF on mobile. I suppose it will stop working for Reddit after the API changes.
If my programming was a bit better I’d make an extension that redirects to the most recent archive.org capture. That would keep working after the API changes and keep me from actually visiting Reddit. Maybe I should learn how.
Google has been pretty much useless lately because it just spits out this SEO spam (probably all written by LLMs, that’s the only way to explain why it’s never happened before but does happen now), so losing reddit as one of the best sources of non-AI-generated information would set us back a lot.
What we need is the current state of reddit, but frozen in time and just as searchable as reddit is right now. And since reddit won’t want to lose SEO, they will be open to scraping.
I know it’s not exactly what you’re looking for, but don’t forget you can often grab a cached copy of the page if you found it via Google. That’s probably the best way to extract some information without giving Reddit a hit right now.
I think it’s perfectly okay to compromise. I’m gonna hopefully use Lemmy as Reddit, and if I can’t find the desired info on here, then Reddit will help me out. I can already find lemmy posts when searching for infos.
What does LLM mean?
It means “large language model”, software like ChatGPT https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_language_model
Thank you!
Large Language Model. A type of AI such as Chat GPT
Large Language Model (like GPT-4)
There are archives of Reddit history, notably the Pushshift archive & current ongoing Archive Team archive. Much of the data can be searched on the Wayback Machine provided by the Internet Archive, although it’s not as convenient.
Would it be possible to somehow mirror the archive as a read only lemmy instance? Like… Funny@oldreddit so that it would be still searchable from lemmy?
I’m sure it’s possible. Someone would either need to transpile the current data format to match Lemmys’, or just build a new front-end for it. Also, it might be considerably difficult to host something like this because there’s just so much data. The Pushshift archive alone is 2TB, which is primarily just text.
I can look into doing this because it sounds like a genius idea. I’ll have to work with a friend and see what we can pull together
Let me know how can I help
Google search has just gotten so incredibly bad. It’s even getting bad at programming searches which used to be a strong suit. Luckily duckduckgo has actually gotten better.
I simply replaced the Reddit Sync shortcut with Jerboa on my phone, works wonders for me :) just need to find a few good replacement communities
That seems like a nice workaround (I miss the monet icon to be honest) how did you achieve this?
