It’s not just the data collection, it’s also the data presentation. Meta controls how information is presented on their platforms. Remember how I was talking about making seemingly random changes to influence society? Social platforms are how Meta makes those changes. They can control what gets upvotes on Facebook and Threads. If Threads is federated with Moist Catsweat, then they influence what content is visible from the Hot and Active pages of Moist Catsweat. That means they don’t just control the political opinions of everyone you talk to, they can influence you. Show you memes and news articles that make you more likely to vote for Trump or Brexit or whatever it is in your country.
I feel like you’re arguing in bad faith. Meta/Facebook has shown for years what kind of company they are and a lot of folks don’t want that. That’s why they’re here and not on Facebook.
I feel that you need to be the one to supply arguments to convince us of how they’re not going to do what they have done in the past here and how they’ve changed as a company rather than the other way around.
im not here for blocking meta/facebook on ‘being assholes’ reasons. i need actual, technical , server-level reasons.
for example, nestle and facebook are both terrible actors. do i block their SMTP servers? nope. im not going out of my way to block companies at the protocol level unless i have a reason to do so. its extra work, and honestly, mostly necessary outside resource issues.
meta doesnt control the protocol anymore than they control SMTP.
i feel like you just have no technical understanding of the communication platforms
meta isnt in a position to kill the fediverse with their single server and inability to modify ActivityPub.
im still hearing a lot of ‘but my feels’ and no ‘this will break your server/communication because…’
It’s not just the data collection, it’s also the data presentation. Meta controls how information is presented on their platforms. Remember how I was talking about making seemingly random changes to influence society? Social platforms are how Meta makes those changes. They can control what gets upvotes on Facebook and Threads. If Threads is federated with Moist Catsweat, then they influence what content is visible from the Hot and Active pages of Moist Catsweat. That means they don’t just control the political opinions of everyone you talk to, they can influence you. Show you memes and news articles that make you more likely to vote for Trump or Brexit or whatever it is in your country.
https://youtu.be/qyN5tNYhfSg?si=pb8hpz9f8iQZykl6
I don’t use either if those platforms, and the meta upvotes are tied to user accounts.
Again, I still don’t see a problem here for me. Meta upvotes/downvotes are not going to be undiscernable from my local content.
If I think they are having an influence, I can actually check.
And you send me a YouTube link?? Ha
What you will notice is the law changing.
thats a long way to go for ‘why we should not accept aunt betty’s upvote on this cat picture’… but hey, you do you man.
I feel like you’re arguing in bad faith. Meta/Facebook has shown for years what kind of company they are and a lot of folks don’t want that. That’s why they’re here and not on Facebook.
I feel that you need to be the one to supply arguments to convince us of how they’re not going to do what they have done in the past here and how they’ve changed as a company rather than the other way around.
im not here for blocking meta/facebook on ‘being assholes’ reasons. i need actual, technical , server-level reasons.
for example, nestle and facebook are both terrible actors. do i block their SMTP servers? nope. im not going out of my way to block companies at the protocol level unless i have a reason to do so. its extra work, and honestly, mostly necessary outside resource issues.
meta doesnt control the protocol anymore than they control SMTP.
i feel like you just have no technical understanding of the communication platforms
meta isnt in a position to kill the fediverse with their single server and inability to modify ActivityPub.
im still hearing a lot of ‘but my feels’ and no ‘this will break your server/communication because…’