Why YSK: The term “Genuine Leather” is a marketing term to sell the lowest quality leather possible.
When purchasing a leather product, look for full grain leather or top grain leather instead. These will provide a much higher quality cut of leather that will look and feel much better and last for much longer.
This really is a perfect replacement for reddit, we even have the same reposted fun facts
You can leave reddit, but you can’t leave the redditor on the inside.
Which is perfect. Love the redditor, hate the Reddit. Isn’t that what the church of “insert clever name here”
Words of wisdom right there.
I mean, reposting things that were on Reddit before would be a good way to get more content on here
jesus christ
Reddit does it with Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Tumblr…
Some of the bigger communities is literally just screenshots of what people say other places.
It would be pretty funny to see an instance that just pulls posts from subs and posts them to Lemmy. Not direct links to reddit, just copy the link/pic/video
fair point… yeah now that you mention it, a lot of the shit I used to see on reddit was from “curated tumbler”, " white people twitter" etc…
I’m glad I left reddit, the api cluster fuck and associated protests (which I joined w/ my rinky dink tiny sub) came at the perfect time to give me the shove out the door I needed. I was spending 3, 4, 5 hours of my day reading the most inane bullshit.
I’m at extremely high risk of it happening again with lemmy, but I like to think it’ll never take on the endlessly churning sewer-exit pipe amount of “content” that reddit had with its however many millions of users.
Reddit does it with Reddit
Hahaha that’s funny as fuck
next YSK: /c/YouShouldKnow reposts things from /r/youshouldknow
top comment: /r/youshouldknow is also reposts from /r/youshouldknow reply–> the real YSK is in the comments
Not quite. The truth is, there is no universally recognized grades of leather. But when bragging about quality, genuine leather is the lowest bar they can go (other than bonded leather, which isn’t fully leather but just a veneer over fabric.
Full grain or top grain is generally what you want.
https://lifehacker.com/what-genuine-leather-really-means-1850309049
Also, some are concerned about the use of an animal product. The vast majority of leather is a byproduct of the beef industry. It is skin that would otherwise go to waste. And it is also far more environmentally friendly a material than many alternatives, which are often made of plastics.
Yeah, honestly you should buy leather products based on brands than on description of “genuine” leather.
And agree, real leather is a much better alternative to the ridiculous amount of micro-plastic synthetic leather generates, especially since it’ll last you decades if you maintain it well.
Leather made from animal flesh is far worse for the planet than pleather, but if you’re really worried, you could just forgo both
https://twitter.com/jan_dutkiewicz/status/1645867376381169665?t=w7mjq-VuWZB6TAudzs7A9g&s=19
I think this is a good point and well sourced; however, it doesn’t take into account the longevity of the product, which is also important. Best practice is probably to thrift existing leather products since we already have so much material in circulation.
It’s the industry recapturing some of its costs by reducing waste. That’s still supporting the industry.
We applauded Native Americans for using every part of the animal, yet when we do it today somehow it’s a bad thing.
The skins are there rather you like the industry or not. Better to use them than throw them in a landfill.
By your logic, why don’t we flay off the skins of all dead people and wear those too? They’re just going to waste!
I’m opposed to the animal killing industry and all of its various outgrowths. The less money that can be made from it, the less money will be invested into the industry in the first place. If the skins end up in a landfill, that’s lost revenue that makes the industry suffer. Putting money in the pockets of these businesses just lets them reinvest. Stop trying to portray your choice to wear skin as somehow the more ethical one and preach from some imaginary moral high ground.
I’d genuinely prefer if my family turned my remains into a fucking backpack instead of paying thousands of dollars to put them on a cushioned box in the ground
why don’t we flay off the skins of all dead people and wear those too?
Because human skin makes really shitty quality leather. It’s not nearly thick enough.
Human bodies aren’t even fit for composting, given the amount of pharmaceuticals and forever chemicals most have in their bodies by the time they die.
Relax, no need to name-call. Otherwise, I’ll be forced to make a video of me badly singing “Imagine”, and nobody wants to hear that.
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Hahahahahahahahaha did you just call him a bloodmouth? Are you a fuckin villager in the 1600s fuckin blood mouth
That’s what carnists are! They eat things that bleed. Hence, bloodmouth.
Corpse sucker is also fun.
Lemmy really capture og Reddit feeling, even have this kind of redditor
It really is like I never left Reddit
Why not indeed! Its a travesty that Im not allowed to make a wallet out of grandpa’s dead ass!
Tan me hide when I’m dead, Fred
Tan me hide when I’m dead
So we tanned his hide when he died, Clyde
And that’s it hangin’ on the shed!
Altogether now!(actually, I unironically think human remains should be reused instead of preserved in a box lol)
Not to be all hyper pagan or anything but maybe just don’t buy skin?
Not sure about the pagan part I’ll be happy to switch once something can really take its place, might have to be lab grown or something, but I’m really looking forward to the open source spider silk yeast being worked on.
It has its uses.
Fully agreed.
Ah yes, the Pagans, who invented polyester clothing
“It puts the lotion on its skin.” Come again? :D
Could you please add a “Why YSK:”? It’s rule #2. Thank you. :)
Sorry, fixed!
If you’re looking for bifl full grain leather stuff, hanks belts is pretty good. not cheap, but you only need one ever.
Hank’s belt fits a man with no buttocks and a narrow urethra, I tell you what.
cool thanks!
Leather is murder anyways.
Murder is killing a human.
Killing a cow is just part of eating.
You didn’t need to kill the cow to eat, you chose to kill something that didn’t want to die for the fleeting taste of it’s dead body on your tongue
True, I really do like the way cows taste. 😋
It is still not murder though.
This is why I keep my animals alive and slice off bits as I need them.
This here is my cow, Limpy…
It has its place.
For example, leather in second hand products it’s great because it’s durable and often high quality. And, whatever you do, the animal has already been killed and paid for.
I would also buy leather products if it’s for something that I intend to use for many years. It sort of offsets the environmental damage from buying multiple synthetic products.
Then again, I’m not vegan.
In the right context, leather goods are much more durable and sustainable than synthetic alternatives. That said, leather is a co-product of the meat and dairy industry which is currently ridiculously unsustainable. Leather for leathers sake in designer goods and such is ridiculous.
Leather production is terrible for the environment, a shit ton of chemicals used.
Agreed. I don’t purchase leather anymore but when I did I still knew genuine leather is pretty much junk.
Wonder what the people who are downvoting this are thinking. Is it not murder, or is it only a restproduct of murder?
I like to think myself open-minded, but I’m also a meat eater. It really is just a matter of self control and convenience. I know humans eating meat in most developed countries is completely unnecessary. I know farming methods are cruel and environmentally damaging. It’s just tough to shake off the habit of craving a nice chicken breast or steak, especially since I lean towards a very high protein a diet.
I’d go far enough to say it used to not be murder, but now we only kill animals for luxury.
I wonder what people who upvote this are thinking, obviously the point is moot unless you are also vegan. And who upvotes someone going “meat is murder” in the comment section.
I’m not vegan, but I do personally agree that it’s selfish and inhumane to eat meat and use leather - especially on an industrial scale. I eat meat, but I don’t have any delusions about where it comes from.
Not meaning to argue, but just to say it’s not only vegans that think about this stuff. Also, even if it was, that doesn’t mean they’re wrong or moot.
I think it’s the difference between vegan ethics and being a vegan in practice. I generally agree with vegan ethics, I think that meat and leather are generally made from murder. Perhaps a lesser version of murder than killing a human being, but murder nonetheless. However, animal products are common in both food and consumer goods and I don’t have the time or money to commit towards fully avoiding them. Like with the issue of many of our agricultural goods being the product of slavery, I believe that this is something that should moreso be curtailed by the state than any individual consumer.
This is my general philosophy. I try to be as ethical as I can, but I realize there will always be a certain level of “hypocrisy” in my actions.
Not murder, per definition.
I think it’s because it’s irrelevant for someone who would be interested in leather (and this YSK). I’m sure they’re well aware of where leather comes from. I will say, though, that if cows are getting murdered for food, then they might as well use the whole animal instead of letting it go to waste.
They killed for their skins. It’s not a “by-product” which would be thrown away otherwise
https://twitter.com/matthewhayek/status/1646145797698756610?t=AL_msrN0woNtB7gqF_pv7A&s=19
It’s like leather veneer, in most cases.
That’s bonded leather.
If you think about it, it makes sense. All they are saying it’s that is actually real leather which is the least you could say about leather.
To add to the naming fun: Corinthian Leather.
I had never heard of that, so that was a fun article to read lol
I thought “genuine” was the middle grade, with “bonded” being the lowest. Bob’s Furniture used to market “genuine bonded leather” sofas which I found both clever and infuriating.
Bonded leather is less than 20% real leather and made from scraps and fibers of genuine leather combined with binders. It’s generally not as durable as genuine leather.
It seems so odd too because if I didn’t know better, I’d assume “Full or Top Grain” was lower quality than “Genuine Leather” just by how the phrases sound.
I’ve seen the videos on youtube where they scrape away the top layer on some expensive item to find that its a thin skin of leather covering plastic.
Anyone that watched TV in the 1970s knows that Corinthian leather is the best grade of leather you can get anyway.
Not exactly true. “genuine leather” is a specific grade of leather product.
Here’s a decent breakdown of leather types: https://bosca.com/blog/types-of-leather-a-glossary/
“the real lpt is in the comments”
You should also know that technically only the piece marked as genuine leather needs to actually be genuine leather. If you buy something made with multiple pieces, the rest could be made from any material so long as that one piece is genuine.
In one of those 70s Fat Albert episodes, I think it was Rudy who one day showed up wearing a jacket of “genuine imitation leather”. That term has stuck with me for decades.
I forget what product this was, but there was a supplement once that bragged about its “genuine placebo effect”.
