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Because poverty totally happens because people are dumb, amirite. It’s always a matter of personal responsibility. We live in a just world.
Edit: I thought “we live in a just world” was self aware enough to read as parody. Alternatively, maybe people get that it’s parody and are downvoting it for that reason, which is much, much sadder.
Don’t feel bad.
Lemmy has become extremely tone deaf and if you say anything even slightly nuanced everyone will choose to believe the worst possible version of what you could’ve meant.
Says the LW user with a gun to their head PFP.
I think the new math is for dealing with this? Basically all of school is self-defence class now. Maybe it always was.
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I don’t think school is for self defense. It was explicitly designed originally to mould the peasant class into a working class that would be useful to industrialists. It has always favoured rote obedience over actual understanding and critical thinking. In that sense it is very much about getting us to lower our natural defences against domination.
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Yes, it is in fact so wrong that it is the name of a classic fallacy, the “just world fallacy”, which the op comment had fallen into. I was attempting parody, but apparently it wasn’t on the nose enough.
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I don’t understand, do you think I was being sincere? Did you read the edit? I am genuinely curious what you think about this.
Like everything else that’s useful in life and not taught in schools, the subject required here is found in the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. It’s called Bistromathics, the first principle of which is that of nonabsoluteness:
The first nonabsolute number is the number of people for whom the table is reserved. This will vary during the course of the first three telephone calls to the restaurant, and then bear no apparent relation to the number of people who actually turn up, or to the number of people who subsequently join them after the show/match/party/gig, or to the number of people who leave when they see who else has turned up.
The second nonabsolute number is the given time of arrival, which is now known to be one of those most bizarre of mathematical concepts, a recipriversexclusion, a number whose existence can only be defined as being anything other than itself. In other words, the given time of arrival is the one moment of time at which it is impossible that any member of the party will arrive. Recipriversexclusions now play a vital part in many branches of maths, including statistics and accountancy and also form the basic equations used to engineer the Somebody Else’s Problem field.
The third and most mysterious piece of nonabsoluteness of all lies in the relationship between the number of items on the bill, the cost of each item, the number of people at the table and what they are each prepared to pay for. (The number of people who have actually brought any money is only a subphenomenon in this field.)
Simply apply this principle to your paycheck, taking into account that there is a drunk version of you ordering random shit you don’t need on Amazon or getting Taco Bell delivered at 1am, and off you go.
You could ascribe this to poor spending habits, or you could go with the more pressing reason which is cost of living expenses and debts. Medical, student, housing, etc.
The reason why they don’t teach you that is because “You work your ass off and get 2,300$ and 2,200$ goes to rent, how much do you have left for groceries?” is a sure fire way to end up with widespread class consciousness followed shortly with your head on a pike.
Louis Labourer works for $9.50 per hour. How many hours does Louis need to work to pay his rent of $1,800 per month?
Each product Louis produces retails for $15. Louis can produce 100 of these products every 30 minutes. What is the total value of product that Louis can produce in an 8 hour work period?
“Surplus value” is the difference between the retail value of a product and the wages paid to those who produce it. Calculate the surplus value generated by Louis in an 8 hour work period.
Cecil CEO has a salary of $55 million per year. How many hours does Cecil need to work to pay Louis’ rent of $1,800 per month?
Assuming each of the labourers employed by Cecil produce the same surplus value as Louis Labourer, how many workers does Cecil exploit to pay his decadent salary?
I’m more interested in what product Louis is producing at a rate of 200 units per hour that retails for $15 each.
Is it drugs? Gotta be drugs.
Also, producing 200 an hour of anything doesn’t sound like something that can be accomplished without the help of a machine, in which case, how much does that machine cost and who paid for it? How much electricity does it use, and what’s the cost of maintenance and inspection?
What sort of raw material does the product require and at what cost? How much does it cost to ship it to the distributor, and what’s the wholesale price for the product? Is there any marketing involved or are we talking illegal drugs, in which case, what bribes need to be paid to ensure safe delivery?
If you’re gonna do the math, at least do it all the way.
If you’re gonna do the math, at least do it all the way.
You’re right, and investors agree! That’s why publicly traded companies do this math and publicly list it in what are known as “income statements”.
What sort of raw material does the product require and at what cost? How much does it cost to ship it to the distributor, and what’s the wholesale price for the product? Is there any marketing involved
Income statements split expenses generally into “direct” and “indirect” costs. Raw materials, shipping, machines, electricity, wages of workers, etc, those all go into “cost of goods sold” or “cost of revenue”. The bulk of cost of revenue is employee wages. Machines are expensive but there’s a reason why the industrial revolution took place and why jobs today continue to be automated. Machines are far cheaper than humans.
Marketing is an indirect cost, so it goes into “Sales, General and Admistrative”. There can also be a line for “Research and Development”.
I’m more interested in what product Louis is producing at a rate of 200 units per hour that retails for $15 each. Is it drugs? Gotta be drugs.
This makes me laugh. I work in manufacturing. The product produced is ubiquitous in construction but can be bought by consumers at a hardware store. You’ve probably bought some yourself, for $15 each. The machine I work on outputs about 100 units per minute. It’s runs 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. In my 8 hour shift it produces 48,000 units. I say “work on” the machine, but really the machine does most of the work. If the bosses could replace me, I’m sure they would. Unlike Louis, though, I’m unionized and make $30/hr. I can’t complain when that’s way higher than average for a job that’s mostly watching a machine run.
Even at this decent wage, the company I work for is still making billions in profit. While the product retails for $15 each, it certainly doesn’t cost anywhere near that to produce. That’s just what people are willing to pay for it.
I would have thought school maths would have prepared you perfectly for life. In school you learned it with 18 apples, which is clearly to much for a single person. In life you learn in with a paycheck of $500, which is clearly too much for a single person.
