I want to buy a new car, but it needs to be privacy friendly. Sadly you cannot really buy any new Car that is.

Has anybody any experience on making your modern car not phone home to its company, by removing the hardware it uses to do?

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    You can have good luck just by buying 10 year old cars - they might have connectivity, but the it will be to a cell/network standard that no longer exists and so for practical purposes the car cannot connect to anything.

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      10 months ago

      Planned obsolescence restoring our privacy through incompetence is kind of fun to think about.

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      toyotas are typically outdated. my 2002 car has a cassette deck, but no CD player. i can imagine a car from 2010 barely being able to recieve DAB.

      that car will last 20 more years anyway, so i’ll just wait this dystopian shit out. why “upgrade” when your car starts every morning and gets 35-40mpg?

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          not even that. there’s LS-400s that have 1M miles / 1,6M km and still use the first engine and transmission.

          the engine in my car (1SZ-FE) is known to regularly last 400.000 km. it barely has 100k after 20 years of being a grocery getter for an elderly woman, and the engine shows literally no signs of wear. you drain exactly the amount that goes in.

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              that’s the thing. we have 5 Toyotas in our family, a couple of ancient VWs (like 70s, rarely drive any of them) and a single ford transit nugget with a westfalia camper pack.

              that thing barely has 80k on it, and it has had numerous electrical problems, and we were stranded on the autobahn at least 4 times. even the variable turbo thingy got stuck (garrett turbo btw).

              long story short, either buy 20+ year old cars, or stick to tpyota and honda.

              never buy a ford. ecoboost engines especially. you’ll be lucky if it lasts even 50k.

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      I have thought about something like that. Maybe getting an early model EV and maintaining it. I love the idea of electric vehicles, but they’ve just always been expensive. Cost is also the reason I have never bought a new vehicle in my life as well.

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        I don’t think there is such a thing as a non-connected early-model EV, aside from really niche stuff that was mostly leased to fleets, like the 1998-2002 Ford Ranger EV or the 1997-2003 Toyota Rav4 EV. Good luck finding one of those, though, and also good luck getting reasonable modern-EV-equivalent range out of the lead acid or NiMH batteries.

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        Even before the official end man, towers were retired and so odds were against getting a connection though somecimes you could