Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said the reelection of former President Trump would be the “end of democracy” in an interview released Saturday by The Guardian.
“It will be the end of democracy, functional democracy,” Sanders said in the interview.
The Vermont senator also said in the interview that he thinks that another round of Trump as the president will be a lot more extreme than the first.
“He’s made that clear,” Sanders said. “There’s a lot of personal bitterness, he’s a bitter man, having gone through four indictments, humiliated, he’s going to take it out on his enemies. We’ve got to explain to the American people what that means to them — what the collapse of American democracy will mean to all of us.”
Sanders’s words echo those President Biden made in a recent campaign speech during which he said that Trump’s return to the presidency would risk American democracy. The president highlighted the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol in an attempt to cement a point about Trump and other Republicans espousing a kind of extremism that was seen by the world on that day.
that’s not proof that he won’t win.
even if you could provide that (which you can’t because it’s impossible to have proof about the future), if he is on my ballot i will be voting for him.
if he’s not, i might write him in, or just vote for jill, who i am sure will be there.
Follow the logic… you need 270 electoral college votes to win. West is on the ballot in ONE state with a total of 3.
It’s not that he won’t win, he quite literally CANNOT win.
that’s conjecture, not proof.
hey, as an aside, i don’t think the mastodon-to-lemmy dms work, but do you think you can do something about the personal attacks (ad hominem, poisoning the well (which is a form of ad hominem), and name-calling) in this thread?
It’s mathematical proof. West is not on the ballot in enough states to win. It’s a fact from West’s own campaign site.
Now, they could spend the next 10 months trying to get on the ballot in enough states to win, but that takes away from actual campaigning.
but you don’t know what circumstances might arise. it’s not proof that he won’t win, it’s just conjecture.
Currently, he can’t win. If he spends 10 months to get on the ballot in enough states, he will have burned time, energy and money getting on the ballot instead of campaigning meaning he still can’t win.
What you need to decide is if you want Biden, or Trump. Of those two, neither is really close to West, but a Trump victory would mean you will never see a candidate like West ever again.
he can win if everyone who voted for Biden and everyone who voted for Trump votes for him. that’s just one scenario.
you literally can’t have proof about the future and no matter how many times you repeat it, you won’t get any closer to knowing the future.
Which can’t happen as long as the only state that has him on the ballot is Alaska.
Weirdly, he has a better chance in Alaska than anywhere else because of the ranked choice balloting, but he still won’t win there either.
I have to say I am very uncomfortable with you moderating this community and also participating in spreading partisan propaganda.
I feel like you are spreading misinformation, and that alone is a rule violation.
It’s not partisan propaganda to call out a fringe candidate for being a fringe candidate. As soon as West dropped out of the Green party, he became a fringe candidate.
But I’ll make you a deal… Forget winning. If West breaks 10% in any state Presidential election, I’ll donate $1,000 to the candidate of your choice. $100 a point. Seems fair, right?
it may be true that he is regarded by some as a fringe candidate, but the best propaganda **is** true.
you haven’t mollified me. i don’t know that there is anything you can say on the topic that would.
>a Trump victory would mean you will never see a candidate like West ever again.
trump won in 2016, and cornel is running now.
surely you can see why I don’t believe you
Tell me you haven’t read the 2025 plan without telling me you haven’t read the 2025 plan.
https://www.project2025.org/
none of that would prevent cornel from running