• IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
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        It wasn’t a “zinger”, I was drawing an equivalence between this lady’s “go back to China” rhetoric and the language of the far right where anyone who doesn’t toe the line is accused of being a foreign agent.

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          Lol, I’m not American. I’m just pointing out the comment from pelosi doesn’t make sense. It adds to the reasons why it might be fake news.

          Attributing a comment like that to her works against her in 2 ways. It alienates those americans who would otherwise support Democrats as she appears to be supporting genocide and being racist, out of context.

          It also links China to the Democrats for those on the other side, who aren’t watching carefully for nuance.

          It’s not a case of countries good or bad, it’s a case of understanding their motives.

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    So I guess genocide is an American value, and if you oppose genocide then you’re unamerican.

    Just another data point indicating that I have never actually been American, and I should have no loyalty to it.

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    How convenient for dem leadership that anyone who disagrees with them is actually a foreign agent.

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      So there’s articles now about her calling them both Chinese and Russian agents for protesting. Nice job, grandma.

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        Then she doubles back and said she’s actually calling for a cease fire too…

        But what she’s really asking for is a complete surrender of Gaza.

        Like when idiots say the invasion of Ukraine needs to end, so Ukraine needs to surrender.

        If your call for a cease fire is the victim to surrender to the aggressor, that’s not a cease fire, it’s you being on the bad guys side.

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          Is the article you linked implying that criticism of Israel is just anti-American propaganda? That the people criticizing Israel just don’t know what they’re talking about?

          The article you linked is an article from early November 2023. This article from NPR, published on the same day as the NYT article you linked, talks about Israel invading North Gaza with a force too small to occupy the city. The authors wonder how such a small ground force could be used to hold and control the city.

          As it turns out, the IDF had no plans of holding it. They planned to erase it.

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              Literally in the Israeli Times article you linked:

              We are both killing the terrorists who participated and killing the terrorists who will want to commit terror in the future,” Halevi told troops and commanders of the 5th Reserve Brigade

              This is some Minority Report shit. Israel must have some psychics in their “Precrime” Police devision.

              Like, are we all too desensitized to the insane shit being said that this is somehow normal and ok to just be published without comment in a newspaper?

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      The Dems and Dem-aligned corporate media have spent the last eight years pushing Russiagate conspiracy theories, and now they’re expanding BlueAnon to include China because the US is itching to ramp up Cold War II.

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    100% against the genocide in Palestine and think our representatives should be doing everything they can to stop supporting it but this video is clearly edited. Pelosi’s mouth is moving basically the whole video yet you can hear absolutely nothing from her except the very end when she gets into the suv. You can very faintly hear the “go back to China” line. However if you look at her mouth it’s not matching up with it at all. Someone clearly dubbed audio over video to make it sound like something it wasn’t.

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    How do these guys fuck up sitters every day. I’m not a yank but you fucks export all your rhetoric and issues anyway so can you get your shit together please.

    This old bag of bones needs to fuck off, get out and vote for Christ’s sake.

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      Based anti-imperalist, class traitor Neville Roy Singham is based.

      I remember that garbage NYT hit piece from last year. Global North corporate media gotta push the new cold war. Before that article it was secret Chinese police stations in NYC, and before that it was Chinese spy balloons. Burgerlanders will believe anything.

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      Your claim is that China is supporting… A grassroots feminist movement? Abortion? Palestine?

      The horror.

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      I don’t think this post should have been removed. I wanted to see arguments and rebuttals being made.

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        You can still see it in the modlog, but generally it’s not a good idea to roll in the mud. Your mental health is worth far more than that.

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    Is there any indication that this desperate ploy to reframe any criticism of Israel’s genocide in Gaza or recognition of innocent Palestinians’ basic humanity and rights as purely foreign propaganda is working at all? It’s absolutely craven

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    We need to pass a constitutional amendment that sets the maximum age to hold public office (including judges) to 67 years old. You can do whatever you want past 67, but you can’t hold public office.

    Read the room, Nancy!

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          I’d rather have a novice who has a chance of supporting something good than an old hand using their experience to enact genocide.

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          What’s the other option? Let them stay for life?

          The issue isn’t lack of experience, it’s that never having to worry about losing the job makes them useless. Watch how fast they get shit done that directly affects them, it was never about lack of ability, the current politicians are just intentionally useless because they all benefit from the status remaining quo.

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              The fuck it is, if 8 years is enough for the president it’s enough for Congress, Senators, and the SC Justices.

              If we can pass down the office of president every 8 years there’s no reason we can’t do the same elsewhere, does it take a decade to learn how to vote or something? Are we lacking in judges?

              There are other levels of office, there isn’t going to be a shortage of experience just because we require term limits. Even if there was I’d prefer an inexperienced person than someone who sits on their hands all day and just votes according to their oligarchical masters whims.