• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Israel can stop the famine right now, just by letting aid in or civilians out. It’s not even about the 2,000 pound bombs anymore. That was abhorrent. This is systemic murder.

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        10 months ago

        That’s not how reality works. And we all agreed that starving entire populations to death as a collective form of punishment is illegal a long long time ago now. We even hung some people for it in a place called Nuremberg.

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      10 months ago

      Look at a map. Egypt controls a border with Gaza. Egypt could allow refugees into Egypt, so why don’t they? Egypt is controlling the flow of aid into Gaza. Why isn’t Egypt allowing more aid in?

      But the goal isn’t to create hatred against Egypt is it? The goal isn’t to criticize the UN for incompetence either. The goal is to create hatred toward Israel, and all facts that don’t further this goal are ignored. Because it’s a propaganda campaign.

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        10 months ago

        Israel is literally committing genocide and ethnic cleansing on the daily. Even before October 7th, they have been illegally settling for decades. There are numerous government ministers and Knesset members that have called publicly for said genocide and ethnic cleansing. Some have said there is no such thing as a Palestinian civilian. Some were giving speeches at a rally with an org that was planning how to re-establish settlements in Gaza.

        The onus should not be on Egypt to take in refugees. The onus should be on Israel to stop its genocidal actions and ethnic cleansing campaign. You know… The thing that’s causing the Palestinians to be in a position where they would need to flee to Egypt in the first place.

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          The onus should be on Hamas to surrender and face justice for what they did on October 7. But since everyone gives them a free pass on violence towards Jews this necessitated a war which Hamas set up to maximize civilian casualties. Because it’s been an effective propaganda tool for them.

          So what have they learned from October 7? People like you will look the other way and give them support. Oh you’ll say you don’t support Hamas, but only when pressed. But the default behaviour is to look the other way on their violent actions, even when they go into villages and massacre everyone they can find.

          The success of Hamas in committing a genocidal act and converting it into sympathy for them while created hatred towards the people they massacred means there is no reason for them to not try to do it again. This is why Hamas needs to be destroyed. The propaganda success they’ve had from October 7 incentivizes them to do it again. A propaganda campaign you’re a part, whether you know it or not.

          Egypt isn’t taking in refugees because they understand what Hamas is. They don’t want these psychopaths to be within their borders and Hamas hides within the civilian population. So there’s no way for Egypt to allow in refugees without also allowing in Hamas, which they don’t want. You’re ignoring this like you’re ignoring the genocidal acts of Hamas because it’s inconvenient to your narrative. You need to be hyper-focussed on hating Israel or the whole thing falls apart, doesn’t it?

          If you were capable of really considering what Hamas is, what they’ve done you wouldn’t be thinking the way you do. But hatred is the kind of thing that doesn’t allow you to think about anything other than your enemy. Right?

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            10 months ago

            Not supporting Terrorism is the default position dude. Nobody needs to be pressed, they just don’t think they need to explain it. And no Hamas is not every refugee. No matter what your bigoted sources want everyone to believe.

            Also this attempt to water down Genocide with a border raid is fucking ridiculous. It makes you look ridiculous and invalidates any concept of Genocide you want to share.

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        10 months ago

        if it’s just a propaganda campaign, Israel can win by ending the blockade and shipping in supplies instead of shooting people.

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        10 months ago

        And Israel controls the other 9/10ths of that border. You don’t get to offload your responsibility to protect civilians in the combat area to a third party.