Mine is light and L from death note . They were potrayed as some kinda of super genius characters but in reality it felt like every other characters shared one braincell and light and L were average .

EDIT : I have come to the conclusion that so may of lemmings didn’t get what my post was about . I don’t care if a charecter is an asshole or isn’t very good in other aspects of their life.

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      Specifically Sheldon for me. I was in grad school when that show was first aired and I hated it instantly and thoroughly. I was already aware that academia is an asshole-factory and couldn’t enjoy it.

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    The crew of the Prometheus.

    Really, Weyland, are you sure these are the best people you could hire for this task?

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      Tried to watch the movie last week, but I only made it halfway through. The stupidity by almost everyone was just too much to bear.

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      All I can think of is the whole stupid running from the falling tower scene.

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    In the original trilogy of novels by Timothy Zahn, Grand Admiral Thrawn is a legitimate strategic genius who keeps winning until the heroes manage to squeak out a final victory by finding exactly the right flaw in his plans.

    In the Ahsoka TV series, Thrawn mumbles vapid syllogisms that only sound profound if you listen to the tone of voice instead of the words. He constantly makes basic Evil Overlord mistakes and oversights, and only achieves the barest minimum success in the end through plot armor and luck.

    It’s like they’re two different characters.

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      This is nostalgia talking. In the OG trilogy, Thrawn was killed in a painfully obvious coup that any competent commander should have seen coming for miles. His constant dismissal of the Noghiri was idiotic. He may not have known Leia was Vader’s daughter, but something was obviously happening with their society that he just waved away like nothing.

      In Ahsoka, he has next to nothing to work with, uses his meager resources efficiently, and achieves his only goal completely (aside from Ezra’s infiltration anyway). Babylon’s betrayal is the only reason the heroes achieve anything at all. At the end of the day, Thrawn has always been a fun character who primarily looks like a genius compared to the complete idiocy of other imperials.

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    Sherlock played by Cumberbatch. He looked like a stuckup asshole who I’d never trust with a baby or pet.

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        When he had all those nicotine patches on him, my only thought was “what a fucking idiot”.

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      Hbomberguy made a video about it. There’s no nuance or foreshadowing in that Sherlock. He exists just so Moffat can feel smart that he knows something the audience can’t possibly know yet, nor does he give them a chance to figure it out.

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        I can’t dispute that, but in fairness, there are quite a few of the original Sherlock Holmes stories where the reader couldn’t be expected to solve the mystery. The Adventure of the Red Headed League is one such, as I recall, though it has been quite a while since I read it.

        For me the fun of the show is in the chemistry between actors and in the development of Sherlock’s character as someone who discovers his own humanity and eventually forms connections with those around him.

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    Rick from Rick and Morty. Though I feel like the show bounces back and forth from making it clear that he’s an idiot who causes all of his own problems and worshipping him as a god.

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      I said Jimmy Neutron for my answer, but I think Rick faces a similar problem.

      He’s a genius when it comes to engineering/academics, but otherwise he’s a fool with an overinflated ego that won’t let him acknowledge that - I mean hell the Ricks literally made the central finite curve so they didn’t have to acknowledge the possibility of someone smarter than themselves out there.

      Similar to Neutron, most of his problems come from him trying to engineer his way out of personal issues, or making overcomplicated solutions to simple problems that end up backfiring.

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      He’s intelligent and an asshole but that doesn’t make him less intelligent

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        He is proficient with magic technology.

        He’s an idiot when it comes to literally everything else. He does frequently overcome his idiocy in other areas by using his magic technology to dominate the situation but it backfires just as often as not. He thinks he’s better than everyone else, and in one powerful way he is, so he uses that to compensate.

        Anything to do with people or reality not filtered through an alcoholic depression lens it’s very clear he doesn’t know how to handle it, and that includes basic self care.

        The problem is that a lot of idiot savant tech-heads see themselves in him but miss the constant intentional criticism of his character.

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    I think it’s well established that Dr. House is wrong way more often than he’s right… I still find it entertaining though.

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        Every episode of house is basically

        Patient gets sick
        House is wrong at first
        Everyone is wrong for a while
        They think they’re right, but they’re wrong
        House has a random epiphany, steals $50 from Wilson, and saves the patient

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          Maybe I should watch House. I love Lucifer and every episode is basically

          Lucifer has a problem
          Someone else has a problem
          Lucifer makes his problem worse
          Someone else makes their problem better
          Lucifer uses the solution from someone to make his problem better, usually after making an epiphany quip
          Lucifer learns nothing

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          Speaking as someone who always loved the show and now consider it somewhat of a guilty pleasure, that’s spot on 😂

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      Hmm never watched that series due to people saying it fell of during later series

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        IMO It is worth a watch!

        Compared to run of the mill hospital shows it is good tv.

        Others you can check out:

        New Amsterdam 2018

        American medical drama television series, based on the book Twelve Patients: Life and Death at Bellevue Hospital by Eric Manheimer

        The Knick 2015

        fictionalized version of the Knickerbocker Hospital in New York during the early twentieth century.

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      I’ve watched House over and over again over the years and always kind of idolized him. But something must have changed about me because the latest time around, it hit way different. I realized, “wow, I really wouldn’t want to be acquainted with this guy in the slightest.”

      But I think that’s because I finally actually understood the show.

      Also, Robert Sean Leonard is massively underrated as Laurie’s foil. Wilson is definitely now my favorite character.

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    In Stargate Atlantis, Elizabeth Weir is supposed to be some world-class diplomatic genius that has a resume as long as her elbow on earth.

    She spends the first two seasons squabbling over the leadership position with Shepard, dealing with petty dissent from the scientists on the expedition, doesn’t manage to resolve a single conflict peacefully and she violates several basic human rights

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    Elizabeth Keen in Black List. Writers constantly told us how brilliant and special she was, then showed her acting like a dimwitted, hormonal teen.

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    James Bond

    While he’s not exactly potrayed as super genious, he’s still supposed to be an extremely compenet secret agent yet the only thing he seems competent at is having an extremely good luck. The only reason he’s still alive is because the villains don’t kill him the first moment they get the chance but instead they always need to deliver this monoloque before executing him which is what causes him to then eventually get away and kill you instead.

    Like how many of the movies start by him just naively walking into the enemy compound armed with pistol and wearing a suit while practising zero stealth and then getting caught by NPC security guard. If this is how you operate then how the fuck havent you been killed already?

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      The novels were way better than the movies except for a few of the early movies that followed the novels closely. The other movies were crap.

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        I agree, but having watched all Bond movies recently. Early movies Bond is a rapist. It ruined the whole two first films for me. And on top of that, the fight scenes are goofy and badly choreographed. As they progress, Bond transitions to a less rapey vibe into more of a Casanova, and the action scenes gain budget, the fight scenes increase in quality significantly and the plot morphs into the stereotypical spy superagent clichés we know today. The misogyny doesn’t go away until the Daniel Craig era though.

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          Maybe you’re right, I’ve never been into the movies much much. You might be remembering ones that I’ve forgotten or didn’t see.

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        I marathoned the Bond films years ago, and what really struck me was the Bond film transition. In the early films, he relies heavily on the arency network, frequently with other agents bailing him out. He’s not so much a super-spy, as he is a good field agent with an excellent support network. Over the course of the generations, he becomes more of a one-man army, culminating (in my mind) with Bond driving a tank through the streets of Moscow. Casino Royal helped bring that back a bit, but by then it was too late, and the enornous success of The Bourne Identity pretty much cemented the army-of-one tone.

        I think GP misses the point: they’re comparing Bond to Bourne. Bond was not originally an “off-the-grid” assassin. He was a field agent, working with local resources to gather intel. Heck, even the climaxes were usually a coordinated assault with friendly troops; it just happens Bond gets to always fight and finish the bad guy, a satisfying conceit - but it was never Bond storming the stronghold and single-handedly defeating an army.

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      Not to mention, he’s the most unreliable agent when it comes to his susceptibility to honeypots…

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    Anyone on Doctor Who. There’s a universal war going on, and you have so many decisions made by characters that don’t make sense but are accepted as barriers anyways.

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      Doctor Who’s target audience is grade school children. If you keep that in mind, the characters motivations make more sense.

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        I was in middle school when I started questioning some of that, for example whenever the police try to combat an antagonist, it’s like they willingly use the wrong weaponry every time, or anyone can sneak in anywhere without being vetted. Given the plot armor, I wouldn’t put it past Davros that he wanted to fail.

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          I show it to my niece and nephew and they are crazy for it. But I learned the hard way that it can scare the shit out of them. The episode with the space whale… Those angry faces from the double headed machine people… So I have to make sure it’s tame for a while. I’m thinking they don’t get to know about the Weeping Angels until junior high

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    Jimmy Neutron. Almost all of his problems came from him trying to cheat his way out of something and/or making overcomplicated solutions to simple problems that inevitably backfire because of some simple flaw he never thought about.

    Academically, he’s a genius, but his overinflated ego prevents him from seeing that he ain’t all that smart when it comes to the real world.

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    The joker, well from movie to movie. In the dark knight he is cunning and is like a genius then in the movie joker he is just an ass hole

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      I don’t think he is an asshole in joker movie as far as i can see all the people he killed were assholes. But i guess in the dark knight he was an asshole

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      But he isn’t, really. He just comes up with elaborate plans that magically predict the future because the writers wrote it that way. The character himself seems to have an average level of intelligence.