• Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
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    My Culture is not your prom dress 2: electric boogaloo.

    As a chinese, you’re welcome to do so. It’s Lunar new year, there’s nothing special or specific about it. Pop a beer, play firework, or whatever. Make up your culture for celebrate the new year, that’s how culture is born! There’s not even a standard for it in China, different region have different way to celebrate. And each household even have their own way to celebrate! How is any of this gatekeeping make sense i don’t know.

    It’s so sad to see a melting pot now call for separation.

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      I do think it’s important that people know what it is they’re celebrating, but yeah like my local Chinese community always does a lunar new year celebration that is open to everyone. I think a lot of Chinese people (and other communities that celebrate the lunar new year, like Okinawan Korean Vietnamese and many others) see open celebration as creating more appreciation for and understanding of their culture.

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      More importantly: a celebration that you can get to by just looking at the bloody sky.

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      Probably about that Karen-level right there.

      Right about where you’re that desperate for attention, it isn’t your place to say and it helps literally nobody.

      Just about that pathetic.

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    These people want to show, so hard, that they care but in the end they don’t realize they are practically pushing for segregation.

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      This is what happens most of the time when people scream cultural appropriation. The problem is that people without understanding of the terms use the terms every day. This leads to scenarios like the one above, or where someone is getting offended you’re enjoying a cultural food, or listening to a specific kind of music. Appreciating other cultures isn’t appropriation.

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        Exactly, appropriating means to take and pretend you invented it or created it. Interacting with culture or enjoying other people’s culture isn’t harmful and if these people actually went to other countries they’d realize their people WANT to share their culture.

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          Yeah I agree that there is a TAKE vs a SHARE.

          Some of the reason cultural appropriation is a bad thing is due to capitalism. Taking something, even symbolically, for profit, is different than learning, experiencing and sharing.

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        I remember someone giving a huge speech on…tumblr probably it sounds like something that would come from that shithole…that white people learning Spanish was cultural appropriation.

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        That’s why people who do understand the terms need to call the people who don’t out at every opportunity, but they won’t do that because of “solidarity.”

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      Hundred. Percent. It’s astounding, I am astounded at the number of messages I have received as a result of this post exactly mirroring the less desired sentiment you’ve described.

      But it’s cool, they can go f*** themselves, there’s like 2 billion people wholesomely celebrating this holiday in defiance of bigotry, so it’s not a real problem.

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      That’s why I laugh at anyone who unironically says “Cultural Appropiation”

      I wonder if they realize that if cultures didn’t borrow from other cultures we wouldn’t have anime or instant ramen.

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    I’m Jewish. I invite you all to celebrate any Jewish holiday. But they’re all stupid religious bullshit other than the food part, so I wouldn’t bother.

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        I agree. Unfortunately, with Jewish holidays, you have to sit through what feels like about 10 hours of prayers in Hebrew before you get to the food.

        Which especially sucks when you’re a hungry kid who doesn’t understand Hebrew.

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          I have the best Jewish friends. They’re not strict Jewish, they adapt a lot of the traditions to suit themselves. For example any of the food heavy holiday’s they invite their non-Jewish friends over but do most of the religious stuff before we show up. So for me, I get to visit with friends, eat pretty good food (I’ve learned what to avoid like the unleavened bread), and help them celebrate something that’s important to them. They make no expectation for us to actually participate, just respect that they are. It’s a good time.

          I feel for their kids though, they have to do the 10 hour thing.

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          Yep. Half my family is Jewish, half is Catholic. My dad (Jewish atheist) made me sit through a really long seder once and afterward said he forgot how boring they are. And also didn’t warn me about the bitter herbs lol. Next time we went to a seder it was wayyy more streamlined.

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          I dated a girl who is Jewish many years ago. Her parents would just throw dishes at each other while arguing in Hebrew. To hear you say that it can’t be entertaining slightly offends me.

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            Hebrew or Yiddish? If she wasn’t Israeli, it was probably Yiddish. Yiddish is also better for yelling people in. My grandmother was very good at it. It’s like if German had a bastard child with Polish.

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              Oh maybe that’s what it was. On a related note the girl I dated has a sister that was a substitute teacher at our high school at the time. She was 21 and would buy us booze and she also played strip poker with my friends and me. Took my buddy’s virginity. Fun times!

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                Not very much. There are very few Ladino speakers alive today. Like exponentially fewer than Yiddish, which already doesn’t have very many speakers left.

                Ladino is very close to Medieval Spanish, but written using Hebrew letters.

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      Food holidays are my favorite holidays, and also because of Jon Stewart, I irrationally appreciate the abundance of Jewish holidays.

      Which Jewish holidays should I celebrate?

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        Well the problem is that Passover has the best food, but it’s also celebrating a genocide, so I don’t really have a good recommendation.

        Purim maybe? It’s mildly less stupid than the others since it’s actually based on something that really happened? But it’s still based on an arranged marriage, so even that’s kind of fucked up. I don’t know. The Bible is ridiculous.

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      Hamantaschen are amazing and I’ll make them year round, no one can stop me!

      I also make the donuts for Hanukkah for my mother

      At least we’re out of the years where we were making like a gross of them. That was exhausting.

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        Every year my mother buys jelly donuts for us when we come to visit for Hanukkah and every year, we all tell her that we don’t like jelly donuts.

        At least she doesn’t try to cook them. She’s an awful cook. And she doesn’t understand food. She makes latkes in the oven (not fried) the day before we come, freezes them, then defrosts them when we come over. And we eat two and pretend we like them and cover them with enough sour cream so that we can’t taste them.

        We used to go home and make our own another day, but they’re also kind of a pain in the ass to make, so we just deal with shitty latkes once a year now.

        Her matzoh ball soup is fine, but it’s very hard to fuck that up.

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          Oh, the homemade donuts, all 122 of them were well received! As well as the hamantaschen. But when you’re making a gross of them, it just takes a long time.

          I like latkes, but it was one of them few holiday cooking things that I did not get pushed into doing as a kid (and now several decades later still do for the family)

          Challah, hamantaschen, donuts…mostly all the dessert things, I guess. And the charoset! There’s more, but I forget until I get the call and start baking for her.

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            I’m good with most Jewish food, but I draw the line at gefilte fish. I don’t know who decided ground up fish balls in soup was a good idea, but it wasn’t.

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        I’ll celebrate with you, but can we make up a new holiday with the same food but none of the boring prayer parts?

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              She was (is) a great cook, they were always light and fluffy. Usually we’d have them with applesauce but sometimes she’d make them with a lot of onion and we’d eat them with ketchup.

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                  I love my aunt and have very fond memories of oniony, ketchupy latkes but I don’t eat ketchup with my potatos anymore lol.

                  In my defense, I was a child. I’m not even sure where she came across them, we’re not Jewish (we were Baptists, from the midwest).

                  She also makes an onion pie that’s pretty great.

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            It’s also so easy to make that even my mother can’t fuck it up. Which, if you ever had my mother’s attempts at cooking, is very impressive.

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              Lmao. Does her cooking make you nostalgic?

              My mom regrets that she didn’t learn all of her mother’s cajun recipes. I regret it, too.

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                It does not. She’s a much better cook than when I was a kid while still being a terrible cook. But at least her idea of offering me dinner is no longer a defrosted turkey burger every night.

                There were also the dreaded dinnertime words of my childhood: “This was an experiment.”

                Because the “experiment” was usually something like, “the recipe called for two cups of sugar and that’s too much sugar, so I substituted cottage cheese.”

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    Nah, as a cracker ass American I think I will celebrate Lunar New Year and immerse myself in the lore and customs of people I share this plant with because history rocks my fucking socks.

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    Nothing friendly about gatekeeping, it’s just a patronizing way to be a giant fucking bitch no one wants to be around.

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    Chinatowns and Mayors of metropolitan cities with Chinatowns : Here’s the schedule of Lunar new year celebrations, come along and enjoy the culture!

    This gatekeeping idiot :

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    I feel like her reply is just as likely to be to call him a race traitor or whatever. It’s hard to reason with people who gatekeep that hard

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    “friendly reminder that if you’re white, you’d better be uptight to the point of constipation at all times, except for moments of stress-induced diarrhea”