No one was inside a Waymo car as it was destroyed.

A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco::A Waymo car was destroyed in San Francisco as a crowd began vandalizing it and ultimately set the car on fire. Nobody was in the vehicle at the time.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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    11 months ago

    It’s you who’s lobbying against them

    Learn how to read.

    How about “hey why are the Mormons of all people more progressive than our city”, instead?

    Learn how to read.

    Also for an purported supporter of public transport you ripped into /r/fuckcars quite a lot.

    You can support something and also think that others who support that thing are childish and naiive.

    WTH are you even doing over on the snoo site.

    I didn’t even say I was on it, I implied that you were childish like they were. Learn how to read.

    No. Railcar suburbs once existed and existing car-dependent single-home suburbs can be turned into them by, as I already explained, densifying around the stations. Which has been done, and is being done, and would come soon also to your city if you bothered to argue for it.

    Learn how to read.

    As to me personally: I never owned a car. Never needed one.

    I didn’t ask and I don’t care.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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        11 months ago

        Yeah that’s not how to argue. What am I supposed to read in that context? You’re deflecting.

        It means reread what you wrote and then reflect on what might have already been explicitly contradicted. Maybe reflect on what I’ve said about my political views instead of injecting the car loving stereotype you’ve made up.

        No, it’s not a dream. No, I’m not living in the city centre, either.

        Congratulations bro. There are still cars all around you and you would still be safer if they were autonomous.

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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            11 months ago

            Nah I don’t think you’re a petrol head, I think you’re a techbro. I’ve accused you of it amply, and you have never even tried to give off any other impression.

            Well like I said, you’re a dumbass who judges people on stereotypes in their head instead of reading what they wrote so go fuck yourself for thinking you know literally anything about me.

            If you think I’m a tech bro I will repeat what I’ve already said, learn how to fucking read. Jesus fucking Christ you’re an idiot.

            Statistically speaking I’m vastly more likely to fall off a ladder changing a lightbulb than getting hit by a car. But I’m sure you have a technology for that, too… don’t you?

            First of all, about ~300 people die from ladder falls a year in the US, and ~35,000 people die from traffic incidents, so no, you absolutely fucking are not more likely to die from a lightbulb unless you’re a shut in obsessively changing their light bulbs every 3 months.

            Second, engineers invented these little things called LED light bulbs, and you only have to change them once every 10-15 years instead of a couple times a year. There are also these little things called fall arrests harnesses that are mandatory for all up high work in any commercial or industrial setting. And guess what, engineers even invented light bulb changing poles so you never have to be up high.

            Now that we’re done with your dumb analogy that you didn’t think through, back to the topic at hand, as long as cars exist, they will be safer if they’re self driving, so present your plausible plan for getting all of the world to give up cars in the next let’s say even 20 years, or shut. the. fuck. up.

            And thanks for the reminder that even people with extremely similar political views to me, can be arrogant dickbag idiots.

              • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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                11 months ago

                Good job missing the point. Then I’ll fall off the ladder cleaning windows or showing winter clothes on the top shelf of the cabinet. Point is: Household accidents aren’t exactly rare: In 2022, 2.776 people died in Germany due to traffic accidents. Domestic accidents: 15.551.

                300 people died falling from ladders in the US, while 35,000 died from traffic fatalities. So shut the fuck up with your cherry picked stats and shifting from a single problem (ladders) to all household accidents once you tried to look up stats and realized you were a fucking idiot.

                …and you’re going to make people use them how? Put a police officer in every household to make sure people are sticking to occupational safety principles?

                WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? You asked for a technology that helps prevent ladder falls, THATS WHAT A FALL ARREST HARNESS IS. YOU FUCKING IDIOT. Here’s another one: light bulb changing poles!

                I very much doubt we have the same opinion on whether capital should be running basic infrastructure.

                Yeah, because you’re an idiot who can’t fucking read and keeps slotting in a tech bro stereotype. You’re a judgemental, inaccurate, dumbass.

                  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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                    11 months ago

                    You’re doing it again: I readily admit that I used the statistics loosely, I didn’t even look up numbers, I said “ladder” and meant with that “household accidents”, which I knew to be much higher than traffic deaths (at least over here, dunno about the US).

                    Yeah, and you were fucking wrong about that too, and just focused on your own area and extrapolating what’s going on in your fucking village to the realities around the world. Like I said, arrogant.

                    What did you do? Instead of correcting me on the fuzziness but acknowledging that household safety is a bigger issue than traffic safety, you go on “lol you dumb I don’t have to engage with your point because you made a spelling mistake”.

                    It wasn’t a spelling mistake, you didn’t bother looking up stats and made an argument based on incorrect information. Even the stat you thought you had in your head was for your tiny region of the world only, not the world on global scale.

                    A safety technology which doesn’t get used doesn’t increase safety. Or is the existence of autonomous cars making non-autonomous cars safer? Hmm? Basic logic? If you want a technology to solve something, part of the design requirements for that technology is its acceptance, its price, which will dictate how ubiquitous its use will be.

                    Yes, and when we’re talking about a problem that causes 35,000 deaths a year on top of billions in damages and hundreds of thousands injured and maimed (in the US alone), then there are many avenues to have regulators encourage or enforce the use of that technology. It’s also not very expensive. First generation Waymo hardware costs ~$100k, that’s easily in the range for autonomous taxi services to pay back within a year of use, give it 10 years for the compute and sensors costs to come down and to get the benefits of manufacturing at scale and it will be easily affordable by average individuals. Another 10 years from then and it will have filtered down into the used and low end markets.