https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/14knc6t/got_r4d_for_pirating_someone_elses_john_oliver_so/
Pirates want to stay on Reddit? This is the last group I had expected to have such a reaction, but here we are. Yes, the mod could have worded it better, but these people actually want to stick around on Reddit.
I personally find Lemmy to be a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit for such subs. I wonder about the reasons why these people still don’t want to move.
I feel like they don’t understand the point of the john oliver posts. Someone said it only turns the community to shit. Yeah, that is LITERALLY the reason so that people migrate away and turn reddit into a mess after spez’s decision. Oh, how quickly people forgot about the protest, spez was right.
My favourite are the comments of people saying “return the sub back to normal, this shit is stupid and isn’t doing anything! I don’t even use Apollo so I don’t care” - posted from Boost for Reddit.
A lot of people don’t even understand. They genuinely think this only affects Apollo and that Christian is being a baby lol. Can’t wait to see their faces when their app stops working and they whine.
they’ll have to manage using the Reddit app to whine, so there will be a delay!
Or they’ll feel stupid and try to pretend the official app is great.
A year ago I tried using the official app because people would chat with me, and I would miss them. Lasted about 3 days before I couldn’t handle it anymore. It’s so bad.
Now spez has deleted all my accounts and IP banned me, so I don’t even need to worry lmao.
to be fair what’s happening is the folks who didn’t jump ship are now the loudest voices. Good luck with that brain drain reddit
Why wouldn’t they want to stay? It works for them. Before ideology, before morality, before any other thing you can conceive of is plain, simple convenience. And Reddit is certainly convenient. Once enough users leave, they’ll leave, too.
What do you expect? All sensible people are probably already left the sub at this point, as evidenced by all those comments in the post you linked.
Mass scale brain drain that’s only going to get worse
To be fair, anyone who actually cares is not on reddit anymore, so you’re seeing the worst of the worst takes.
A lot of people on r/piracy are pirates by convenience, not by ethics. The sub being shut down is not convenient for them. It’s really sad to see how many people have the attention span of a goldfish, and can’t think beyond “this isn’t convenient for me today.”
Pirates by ethics = root of socialism, anarchism?
Pirates by convenience = root of capitalism and imperialism?
For me, at least, there are companies worth pirating stuff from. I don’t pretend to be ethical in any way, although I do avoid pirating from indie devs. It’s been a long while since I pirated anything, tbh. I just like the community here and it’s nice to keep up with the news.
Exactly. I don’t pirate too much, I’m happy just playing my favorite video games (paid for because they are good) and talking in chat rooms, but if I wanted to play a Nintendo Game with friends I would 100% pirate it; it’s ethical in this case and I have really no other way to do it.
Especially their back catalog. Nintendo is sitting on tons of lost money for reasons I don’t really understand
If they sold the old games still piracy rates would probably go down and they would get more money, so it would be pretty much a win-win for Nintendo. Or am I missing something?
No, you’re right, and that’s absolutely what I’m saying. Presently, the only avenue if you want to relive the old Pokémon games is to steal them. That, if you ask me, is big dumb
Ah, okay. Guess I’ll just keep pirating Nintendo games then, half because I hate Nintendo and half because it’s the only way to get them now.
Well I certainly don’t give a fuck about ethics so I just pirate cuz I want. And on that note I also use reddit sometimes because why not. I’m not here ideologically, just cuz it’s a nice place to be in. I like it here. I use lemmy more than Reddit nowadays. Reddit is a source of information and sometimes memes. Lemmy for the good place to be in.
People are dumb bud… there is, just a lot of plain dumb people out there.
Why? Idk bud, people are dumb just that no more questions about it. People are dumb.
It’s important to note that the default state of people is being dumb. It takes effort, exposure and more qualities/circumstances during a person’s early years to not be dumb.
Many people just didn’t grow up in an environment that allows that, it’s actually a quite specific one that doesn’t happen automatically.
And once the early life phase is over, mental plasticity is a lot lower, so very very few people go from “dumb” to “not dumb”.
If you want to be less dumb, I can really recommend https://lesswrong.com/rationality
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
- George Carlin
Some days I think “People can’t possibly be that dumb, right?” and them I’m let down every time, 'cause they are.
Seems to apply to everything involving people.
To not even mention other animals.
It’s like BitTorrent. There’s seeders and then there’s leechers who just want their free stuff and stop sharing immediately afterwards.
Some have more principle than others.
I think you mean there are Lemmy users (qbittorrent) and Reddit users (utorrent).
Can’t convince them what they’re using is bad and that there are better alternatives.
Still can’t believe people use uTorrent even though it became malware so long ago. Like come on guys, really? There are a ton of way better clients like qBit and Transmission, and they are just stuck in their own ways to their detriment.
I have friends who still default to utorrent. Every time I see their desktops with utorrent in the taskbar, I let out an audible WTF and show them the light (qBittorrent).
I think the craziest part is those who know, so they stay on a “safe” version released in 2010…
Nothing like using a 13 year old piece of software despite there being way better up to date alternatives.
Okay, that’s just crazy. I have been beginning to suspect people are a lot dumber than I originally thought, and this helps confirm that.
I’m not sure I’m able to seed, unfortunately. College network doesn’t seem to like port forwarding, and Mullvad disabled port forwarding recently. That and I don’t have a lot of storage space and I’m worried about getting a scary letter from my ISP. At least the scene I’m in is more DDL-based than torrent-based. Makes things easier.
They simply have no spine?
Probably bootlickers
Sink their bones to Davey Jones! The best of us have migrated to Lemmy
It’s instetesting for the subject of Piracy in particular. Participating in obtaining digital goods has most often been a “take it or leave it” standard. You’ve always had to “go where the action is” if not desperately trying to get invited ( Demonoid era).
They will come to their senses when they need there warez as they always do.
Good ole Demonoid. Takes me back.
I don’t see that subreddit lasting long after this tbh. If this all to make the product (reddit’s communities) look good to buyers, then I can see it being nuked.
There are pirates as in ideologically cultured anarchists and there are simpletons chasing releases and demanding stuff as if they were entitled to receive it grr
Can’t even open that link on phone without app. Real Pirates wish to be free.
Hi, I use old reddit. I think if you visit the page with old reddit and switch to desktop mode you should be able to open the page on mobile.
“I am not going to conquer anything. The one who is the most free…is the pirate king!” -monkey d luffy
This is basically how Archer became king of pirate island
We still have to wait and see what happens after July 1st.
Very true, doesn’t matter what they’re allowed to post on the sub when their app stops working.
I have the opposite question, what trait of a pirate makes you think they would leave reddit?
I’d expect a general understanding of the inherent weaknesses and drawbacks of centralised infrastructure.
Those are not traits of a pirate.
Wanting free stuff without ads. Lets wait to July 2 after they had to leave the third party apps and discover the cluster fuck that is the official app.
This makes more sense.
Want to get stuff for free, but you don’t want to pay for it, don’t want to see ads either
But suddenly you get ad-infested Reddit app on mobile or you can’t see the page. Must feel dumb
They will “pirate” the reddit app. I believe such modifications already exist.
But then you get a shitty app
Whether pirates have wanted or not if they pirated long enough they have experience lot of things being killed off. Torrent sites they relied on dying and disappearing for good like rarbg. Recent reddit causality being r/newyuzupiracy. Direct links being killed off like megaupload. Discord channels dedicated to piracy or jailbreaking being banned and killed off (why isn’t stuff like matrix more common instead of hoping Discord ignores them?).
The constant search for new methods to piracy p2p, torrents, usenet, i2p, irc, discord bots, telegram bots, etc.
It’s not an area that has stability so pushes people to constantly be searching and finding new ways to pirate. Being on centralized places has always been borrowed time. Piracy in the long run always ends up having to search for a new home, better places, better methods. It’s a nomadic lifestyle in the digital space by the nature of it and the hostility towards pirates from those in power.
But, one thing that has remained a constant has been decentralization. With no better representation of that spirit than bittorrent. As long as a few people have it the source remains alive.
Wait rarbg was shut down?
Are there any ones as good?
Check the megathread on the side it has everything.
But, from what is recommended on there I have found torrentgalaxy coming close to rarbg.
Thanks for the tip!
They generally dislike corporations, dislike being told what they can or cannot do, and have more technical expertise than the average person. They are extremely accustomed to finding and migrating to new platforms.
I agree, although due to the popularity of reddit maybe they just landed there by chance.
Yeah I think reddit is a behemoth that has subsumed many of the earlier, more separate internet forums and communities.
I am hoping that the fediverse can reverse that trend and re-decentralize(!) the internet. The decentralized model is better for users (and humanity as a whole) after all, and reddit will continue to shoot itself in the foot by being greedy.
