He pressed Pelosi on whether the United States has a red line for Israel and whether they “own” the Gaza operation as much as their ally.

“If you don’t like what Israel is doing, and the president has made it clear that some of what Israel is doing he doesn’t like, and you go on supplying them with hardware to do these things you own this operation every bit as much as they do, don’t you?” Sebastian asked the former House Speaker.

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    Self-awareness in short supply:

    The behavior of Netanyahu is, in my view, inexcusable in terms of how it has effected the collateral damage of children and families and the rest, but nobody can take away the right of any country to dEfEnd itSeLf

    If something’s inexcusable then don’t make excuses.

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      TIL “dEfEnSE!!!” = Starving an entire ethnic group, blocking aid, enforcing apartheid, stealing land, executing civilians in the street with impunity, killing 30k mostly women and children, bombing hospitals, bombing refugee camps, bombing ambulances, torturing detainees, and committing genocide. Just like how those Nazis in the 40s were just defending Germany right?

      More double speak from the “left” in the US.

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        More double speak from the “left” in the US.

        The left certainly don’t think any of those are defense. You’re talking about centrists and right-wingers. Most of the democratic party are centrist, not leftist.

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        The right supports Israel’s genocide too. It’s a whole lot easier to count the handful of people in DC that don’t support it.

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          Yeah agree, I just hate how frequently dems will call Israel’s action “brutal”, “inexcusable”, or condem their settlers violence in one breath then vote to approve stand alone appropriations for their government in another.

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          What people forget too quickly is there is a populist candidate who would respond to pressure and apply it forcefully. The best example of this was the call for a bigger stimulus check, the average joe complained, the establishment ignored them and said it wasn’t gonna happen until Trump highlighted it and pushed the establishment to halfway allow it. A Trump political strategist could get Trump to start chanting Genocide Joe, it would force Biden to say he won’t stop or if he does stop, the ability to say he stopped it the wrong way (Too many deaths, not enough hostages released, poor bargaining, etc). This war really only seems popular with establishment players, the same types of folks who either hate Trump or fall in line for him anyway so it would only be positive points. The scary part is every side is essentially playing chicken with people’s futures and the market can stay illogical way longer than the average joe can be liquid.