He pressed Pelosi on whether the United States has a red line for Israel and whether they “own” the Gaza operation as much as their ally.

“If you don’t like what Israel is doing, and the president has made it clear that some of what Israel is doing he doesn’t like, and you go on supplying them with hardware to do these things you own this operation every bit as much as they do, don’t you?” Sebastian asked the former House Speaker.

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    Well its multifaceted.

    Your starting position is that people aren’t in unanimous agreement with you because they are afraid Jews will call them antisemites.

    You then go on to claim that Jews are already calling us all antisemites so we have no reason to not agree with you.

    If not antisemitic, it is reductionist to the point of being mistaken for it, so what did it add to the dialog?

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      I didn’t say people who agree with me are afraid jews will call them antisemitic. if anything I said. people, people close to and or in power are not being as explicit as I am. and by the way, jews aren’t calling people antisemitic. people who support a pro israel only agenda are calling people antisemitic. that includes jewish people who are vocal about what israel is doing. that’s why that word has no power. and in no way did I suggest people do not have a reason to disagree with me, other than intentionally misreading my comment to try to draw out an argument.

      if all of that is beyond you and it clearly is, having a discussion with you would be similar to wrestling with a pig in mud: you end up angry and muddy and. the pig just enjoys it. I choose to not engage.

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        So the people are in power agree with you, but won’t explicitly say so, because they are afraid of being called anti Semites by people who aren’t Jewish?

        If you are unable to support the Palestinian people without the insinuations of conspiracy you have to consider that you may be further harming the Palestinian people, rather than aiding them.