Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ā€˜uncommittedā€™ in Michiganā€™s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ā€˜uncommittedā€™ in Michiganā€™s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

ā€œItā€™s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote thatā€™s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,ā€ she said on Sunday during an interview on CNNā€™s State of the Union. ā€œA second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.ā€

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Bidenā€™s 2024 campaign, also said she wasnā€™t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote ā€œuncommittedā€ in Michiganā€™s 27 February primary.

  • beardown@lemm.ee
    11Ā·
    9 months ago

    You had to compromise, because of course other people have power and leverage to use, but you got solid returns

    Agreed

    You could flip your argument on term limits on its head and say he would be even more unconstrained to pursue the agenda his voters want.

    Biden is a zionist. If left unconstrained he would be even more supportive of Israel than he currently is. He doesnā€™t like the brutality of the current genocide because itā€™s bad optics. But he agrees with the ultimate result of Israel waging total war and permanently annexing Gaza. Once he is reelected he will have no accountability at all on this issue - and he only is accountable to a very modest extent currently because he needs to win Michigan in November. Once November is over that wonā€™t be the case.

    Can you answer me on what the alternative does? Trump is not going to be an anti Zionist. Heā€™s going to hurt more Palestinians, harder. Heā€™s going to devastate international relations and create similar crises across the globe, which will hurt even more people.

    Agreed.

    So it seems that the options that our system has presented us with are voting either for an active genocide, or voting for the creation of additional genocides in addition to escalation of the current one. If that is the choice the system offers us then arenā€™t we compelled to restructure the United States and replace our system itself? At the very least, violence and death required to sustain our country must be fully acknowledged and its truth must be exposed. Biden and the United States are causing the occurrence of a genocide. If that is our least harmful option then Xi and Putin (who are worse than us) are correct to use this as an opportunity to permanently destroy American/Western moral clarity.

    • a lil bee šŸ@lemmy.world
      2Ā·
      9 months ago

      Donā€™t sell your rage short. It is one of the constraints on a presidentā€™s behavior.

      And in favor of what? Putin or Xiā€™s moral clarity? Iā€™m unhappy with the situation in Gaza, but as flawed as the West might be, Iā€™m of the opinion that it creates much fewer human rights atrocities. I want it improved and refined, not dismantled. In the absence of stability, do you really think leftism is what is going to rise out of the ashes? Like, really consider what youā€™re advocating for here. How do you fight a genocide in Gaza by dismantling our own democracy at home and kicking off hundreds more in the struggle to fill the void of American hegemony? Again, I find myself questioning the pragmatism of these options.

      I genuinely see a path to a better tomorrow through maintaining our democracy long enough for the boomers to age out a bit more and then filling that vacuum with a more leftist party to contend with the more centrist democrats. Even better would be a growing and pragmatic left that uses bargaining, cooperation, and political capital to achieve their ends. Getting back to a sane form of ā€œbipartisanshipā€ once we have rubbed the modern conservative populist movement into the ground. Rivals that can at least agree on the fundamentals of humanity.

      At the end of the day, I want to flip the general leftist position. Iā€™m a social democrat. Iā€™m super open to a ton of leftist positions. Why would I want to vote for the left right now? Theyā€™re angry, disorganized, almost powerless, refuse to compromise, and the rising populism movementā€™s inability to perceive and work with the nuances of government are extremely concerning. I hear more about whatā€™s wrong from them than I ever do an actual solution.

      I need solutions and I need us to remain on the rails so those improvements can be made. Asking for the country to collapse is just cruel to so many people. Possibly literal magnitudes above a genocide in Gaza.