Despite these red flags I think people will just vote for him as a counter vote to Trump. America would rather have a President asleep at his desk than one who wants to burn the house down.
Buddy, your opinion on me and my intelligence is irrelevant. You understand that right? Thinking that you have any business sharing that opinion is what’s childish.
If you want to be an adult then the adult conversation to have with yourself is to realize your preferred candidate either needs my vote and so your best option to get it is to join me in my efforts to affect a policy or your preferred candidate doesn’t need my vote. I recognize the choice before me and have made mine. Now it’s your turn to do the same.
You live in make believe world where you think your ideas change reality. Tell me how abstaining and allowing Trump to get elected, makes your life better? Fuck all the other people you’re fucking over, literally killing, in some cases. YOU. WHAT DO YOU GAIN FROM A TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN JAN?
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You live in make believe world where you think your ideas change reality. Tell me how abstaining and allowing Trump to get elected, makes your life better? Fuck all the other people you’re fucking over, literally killing, in some cases. YOU. WHAT DO YOU GAIN FROM A TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN JAN?
What boils my blood is that everyone kinda accepted right’s reaction to the president. For them it’s all about theatrics and how much of a frenzy the president can whip with a twitter account, and nobody cares about policies. Biden’s administration is incredibly effective, they appoint people when they needed, they organise commissions when appropriate, they propose and support bills and legislations, you know, all the things that presidential administration is suppose to do, and apart from knee-jerk reaction on Israel issue, they were on the right side every time, and they fixed a lot of damage that previous guy made.
But Biden isn’t a wanabe dictator that tries to rule around checks and balances to achieve loud social media headlines, so everyone calls him president asleep and waits for Trump but good (and I can’t stress enough how bad that would be actually)
Nothing the person you replied to said indicates they’re happy with the Democrats. They just say that there is a lot to lose if the Homicidal Culture War Party takes office again.
Ah, I see, you just don’t know what some words mean.
“Effective” doesn’t mean “I very much like that”. I was specifically opposing the narrative that Biden’s administration doesn’t do anything, you know, “sleepy Joe” propaganda point. Actually, they do a lot of things, they just don’t advertise it to a general public very well.
I also never thought that Biden will try to do something that he wasn’t trying to do ever, so him not implementing single payer healthcare plan, for example, isn’t a testament to his effectiveness, but his political values.
Very explicitly not what I said.
What I am saying is, you didn’t vote in the primaries at all, so now you stuck with whatever other people chose. And turns out, that guy isn’t as bad as everyone thought, actually. Not good, but also not bad. It’s just the system they have to operate in is incredibly fucked, and it’s fucked because every 8 years or so US collectively decides that not bad is not good enough and decides to elect someone who explicitly wants to destroy everything they can.
Yeah, I’m sorry, I wasn’t precise. I didn’t mean you personally, I meant royal you, people with your position. Based on poll numbers there is either not enough progressives in US or they’re incredibly politically inactive. And honestly, I don’t know what is worse.
Someone who takes time out of their day to vote against the interests of every generation after them is absolutely worse than someone who stays home. Period.
Unfortunately many of my peers are saying they’re going to abstain from the general or vote third party. I’m worried people would rather end democracy than hold their nose and vote for Biden.
Despite these red flags I think people will just vote for him as a counter vote to Trump. America would rather have a President asleep at his desk than one who wants to burn the house down.
The choice is pretty easy:
Aid and support to Israel
Or
Aid and support to Israel, and give Ukraine to Russia, and give Taiwan to China, and implement fascism at home
A choice created by people who voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries.
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Buddy, your opinion on me and my intelligence is irrelevant. You understand that right? Thinking that you have any business sharing that opinion is what’s childish.
If you want to be an adult then the adult conversation to have with yourself is to realize your preferred candidate either needs my vote and so your best option to get it is to join me in my efforts to affect a policy or your preferred candidate doesn’t need my vote. I recognize the choice before me and have made mine. Now it’s your turn to do the same.
You live in make believe world where you think your ideas change reality. Tell me how abstaining and allowing Trump to get elected, makes your life better? Fuck all the other people you’re fucking over, literally killing, in some cases. YOU. WHAT DO YOU GAIN FROM A TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN JAN?
abstaining from voting for genocidal geriatrics is doing the right thing. it’s an end in itself.
So the 66% of the population who don’t vote for no particular reason at all are, “doing the right thing.”
that’s a leap of logic
No I believe my behavior changes reality. Not only that, you believe my behavior changes reality.
Yes. Your behavior changes things. Not how you imagine it. That’s why you’re dangerous.
Compromise with people like me or lose to MAGA. That’s the choice in front of you.
Interesting way to describe committing Genocide. Are you a fan of it perhaps?
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By pretending that Biden can ignore Genocide you are the only one helping Trump.
The Genocide stops loses. Get it through your head. And start showing Biden to stop supporting Genocide in the polls.
You live in make believe world where you think your ideas change reality. Tell me how abstaining and allowing Trump to get elected, makes your life better? Fuck all the other people you’re fucking over, literally killing, in some cases. YOU. WHAT DO YOU GAIN FROM A TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN JAN?
Why are you spamming this? https://lemmy.world/comment/8047184
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Sorry I forgot the part where I am not stupid enough to get blackmailed into condoning Genocide.
You better start telling Biden to stop his Genocide because if he does not he will lose :)
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What do you make of this article? https://theintercept.com/2024/01/11/israel-air-force-targeting-intelligence/
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What’s that?
What boils my blood is that everyone kinda accepted right’s reaction to the president. For them it’s all about theatrics and how much of a frenzy the president can whip with a twitter account, and nobody cares about policies. Biden’s administration is incredibly effective, they appoint people when they needed, they organise commissions when appropriate, they propose and support bills and legislations, you know, all the things that presidential administration is suppose to do, and apart from knee-jerk reaction on Israel issue, they were on the right side every time, and they fixed a lot of damage that previous guy made.
But Biden isn’t a wanabe dictator that tries to rule around checks and balances to achieve loud social media headlines, so everyone calls him president asleep and waits for Trump but good (and I can’t stress enough how bad that would be actually)
We know this. We know you are happy with Biden. Goodie for you.
We are not. Are you going to listen to us or just keep telling us how happy you are with the guy you voted for in the 2020 primaries?
Nothing the person you replied to said indicates they’re happy with the Democrats. They just say that there is a lot to lose if the Homicidal Culture War Party takes office again.
Yes they did. Right here.
I see you all have resorted to shameless gaslighting.
Ah, I see, you just don’t know what some words mean.
“Effective” doesn’t mean “I very much like that”. I was specifically opposing the narrative that Biden’s administration doesn’t do anything, you know, “sleepy Joe” propaganda point. Actually, they do a lot of things, they just don’t advertise it to a general public very well.
I also never thought that Biden will try to do something that he wasn’t trying to do ever, so him not implementing single payer healthcare plan, for example, isn’t a testament to his effectiveness, but his political values.
Efficiency isn’t good if you don’t agree with everything someone does but I see why you interpret it like that.
Very explicitly not what I said.
What I am saying is, you didn’t vote in the primaries at all, so now you stuck with whatever other people chose. And turns out, that guy isn’t as bad as everyone thought, actually. Not good, but also not bad. It’s just the system they have to operate in is incredibly fucked, and it’s fucked because every 8 years or so US collectively decides that not bad is not good enough and decides to elect someone who explicitly wants to destroy everything they can.
Incorrect. Not only did I vote I phone banked, canvassed and donated just like I did in the 2016 primaries.
Yeah, I’m sorry, I wasn’t precise. I didn’t mean you personally, I meant royal you, people with your position. Based on poll numbers there is either not enough progressives in US or they’re incredibly politically inactive. And honestly, I don’t know what is worse.
Someone who takes time out of their day to vote against the interests of every generation after them is absolutely worse than someone who stays home. Period.
Unfortunately many of my peers are saying they’re going to abstain from the general or vote third party. I’m worried people would rather end democracy than hold their nose and vote for Biden.
Good. Get more worried. Biden will lose if he continues this Genocide.
Last election he barely won while everyone was dunking on Trump. He will never win while the left is actively fighting against Biden instead of Trump.
If Democracy is Genocide or Genocide it’s already dead
I’m definitely an anything but Trump voter. Biden will have my vote since nobody else stands a chance.
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