• Thief_of_Crows@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      Not this incumbent, I suggest you read some polls. Biden is probably the only person besides Hillary Clinton that could lose to trump in 2024.

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        10 months ago

        Fuck polls. Polls are broken and have been for quite some time.

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        10 months ago

        Is there anyone besides Shapiro that polls better than Biden in a head to head matchup with Trump? Last I checked other good candidates like Witmer and Newsome are losing to Trump by double digits. I would absolutely prefer one of those 3, but they didn’t want to run this time.

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          10 months ago

          Yeah, Cornel West could easily win if the DNC got behind him. Probably Sanders too. Did you mean Ben Shapiro? What?

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            10 months ago

            Josh Shapiro… Governor of PA. One of the only people that polls better than Biden against Trump. Cornell West isn’t even close. Barney the dinosaur has a better shot.

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              i will not vote for josh shapiro. he said he’d fix the opioid epidemic and went after doctors and patients instead of the pharmaceutical companies. then he financed a christofascist in the republican primary in dangerous fucking gambit. he’s a piece of shit. fuck him. he’s a fucking cop. fuck him. he’s a fucking bastard.

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              Just because west isn’t polling there now doesn’t mean he couldn’t be. Trump is unpopular enough that literally any random person on the internet could beat him if they were made the dem nominee. If Dems want to win this election, they have to cut Biden out. He’s going to lose, because of the genocide. I don’t doubt that Shapiro could also win, as long as the DNC gets behind him.

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                So instead of the current president of the United States that has beaten Trump before, you want to put up someone with zero name ID less than a year before the election?

                Listen, I don’t dislike West. He’s got some good ideas. He absolutely cannot win a national election with this little time to campaign. That’s the problem with the idea that the Democrats can replace Biden and run someone else. That opportunity has straight up passed. No one else has the fundraising, campaign staff, or name ID to start running a presidential campaign now. I really wish there was, but there isnt. Even if the entire Democrat campaign apparatus was behind them. It simply takes time that isn’t there anymore.

                It’s gonna be Biden or Trump, so we might as well do everything we can to insure it’s Biden because if it’s not we might not have the opportunity to get better candidates in the future. 2028 has some solid presidential candidates in the pipeline for the Democrats.

                Sure Biden might lose, but that’s not a forgone conclusion and being a defeatist isn’t going to help anyone but the GOP.

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                  Have you noticed that a lot of people aren’t so keen on this trump fella? I’m pretty sure I could beat trump if the DNC got behind me, and I’m not even 35. The only guy who can’t beat him is the one currently doing a genocide and also overseeing a tanking economy from the working class perspective. It is MARCH. if we had a sane country, the start of the election would still be at least 2 months out. It’s definitely not too late, especially with how polls are looking. 100K Uncommitted Democrats in Michigan, a state Biden only won by 10K statewide. This election and the plans moving forward are too important to leave with a guy who is deeply unpopular, losing cognitive function by the day, and is at best 50/50 to even survive his term. Oh yeah and that guy is also committing a genocide.

                  I’m a socialist, and I plan to vote for trump, solely over the genocide. But even if you think Biden is less bad than trump, we cannot afford to have someone as awful as the lesser of those evils. Like, if the election is Biden Trump, we have already lost, which side wins is almost irrelevant. The urgent problem is not that Trump might win, it’s that even if he doesn’t, the winner is still deeply unqualified to be president. I mean fuck, let’s just nominate Obama. If trump can run then Obama can. And I think obama was an awful president. But at least he is popular, knows where he is the entire time he’s awake, and isn’t going to die before 2028.

                  People think that democracy will die by court rulings, trump getting away with a coup, etc. But it won’t. Democracy will die when 70+% of the country or so says “that’s not my president, and he isn’t my neighbor’s president, so why would I listen to his government?”

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                    What planet are you living on that you think Biden and Trump are equally bad? What are you basing that on? I want actual policies.

                    And explain how Trump would lessen (or not increase) the genocide in Gaza. Again, provide specifics**. I need to understand how the hell you’ve made such a poor assessment of all this. If you can’t that’s fine.