• DingoBilly@lemmy.world
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    To be fair, replying with I’ll skin you alive is pretty extreme/completely unnecessary.

    There’s reasonable discourse and then there’s just “Fuck you dumb idiot” type responses which add nothing to a conversation.

    I’d consider his response pretty childish/immature although a less extreme version of it makes sense.

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      I think you have to know your audience. Hyperbolic threats of violence from someone I know isn’t violent make me laugh, they are not mean, they are funny.

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        Also this guy is kinda known for fairly violent comedy videos, so “I’ll skin you alive” is pretty tame for him.

        For example he’s created an ad that ended up being banned by the UK advertising watchdog, twice:

        Adverts given the green light by Surfshark included gun violence, child death, and namedropping competitors

        Source: indy100

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          This just tells me the guy is actually violent though. If he’s literally getting banned for his stuff then he can say it’s for comedy/meant to be funny, but he’s missing the mark.

          Complaining about being censored in this case isn’t really valid as he’s going over the line.

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            You should actually watch some of his videos then. He’s doesn’t complain about being censored and he fully supports the advertising agency’s rulings. In the violent ones that were “banned” (just cut out of their respective videos), he fully agrees he was pushing the envelope which was entirely his intention.

            He says it even better in his video “Dear Surfshark, Please Forgive Me” https://youtu.be/mono4nHA1QI?si=R40wu5LlEHoZ-cwT

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                I’d much rather watch someone who isn’t pushing the envelope.

                The personality of a housecat

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                You’re taking a couple comments at face value, when the actual creator goes into detail about each one of his ads and the thought process about them. He’s legitimately a great guy and creator who does his best to be respectful with what he does. He’s very upfront that his content isn’t made for kids, including the best content warnings I’ve seen a content creator do on their media.

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                  Perhaps, but nothing I’ve seen mentioned sparks my interest. I’m not a fan of “shock comedy,” and while foul language doesn’t offend me, it also doesn’t interest me.

                  That said, I’m glad he’s respectful.

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                    The shock comedy is mainly his Surfshark ads, and even then the shock ones are few and far between. They’re mainly just comedy sketches. If you’ve ever seen any of the asdfmovie sketches, that’s him. One of his best videos is his in-depth review of Thomas the Tank Engine.

                    Couple other favorites from his main channel (Where the higher production skits are) are Let Me In and The Hole.

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                  So I should watch him because I don’t know what his content is like? There’s a lot of content I’m unfamiliar with, so much that I can’t possibly watch it all.

                  So far, nobody has given a compelling reason why I should watch it, and “it’s not as offensive as people claim” isn’t a very strong sales pitch. It’s not a reason to watch it, it’s just a reason to not avoid it, which isn’t the same thing.

                  So I’ll ask again, why should I watch him? What unique value does he offer over other content?

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              Well it’s not violent from what I can see, but it’s also not funny.

              He hasn’t posted in a while though, so I think I’d have to check out what he’s like on twitter to see if he’s turned into some erratic psycho.

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                That’s his main channel with the higher production skits. There’s also his side channel at https://youtube.com/@TomSkaAndFriends which has a lot of great content as well. If you don’t find him funny, that’s a valid opinion since we have different views on what’s comedic. But assuming he’s turned into some “erratic psycho” is just rude.

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                  I’m just going off what he himself has posted.

                  Ultimately it may be completely out of context, but based purely on the small sample he appears a bit extreme. It’s the problem with small snippets like this, and why you need to be careful with what you post.

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        I think this quickly goes into bad territory.

        It’s very easy to be racist/sexist and then just say “It was a joke bro! Calm down!” as an example.

        If you’re making violent “jokes” but saying it’s not real… Well sorry to say but you’re actually just violent and pretending otherwise.

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      In Tumblr culture, these hyperviolent responses aren’t made at the end of a heated argument, but rather meant tongue-in-cheek.

      For example, imagine one person posts “love pineapple on pizza”. Then another person responds “Do not dare to put pineapple on pizza or I’ll skin you!”.

      It expresses that the second person has strong opinions about pineapple on pizza, but hopefully everyone involved knows that it’s an empty threat (because everyone is anonymous on Tumblr) and that it’s not meant serious at all.

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      I’m personally more a fan of curses of wicked inconvenience.

      Eg, “May you never find the pebble pressing into the sole of your foot, even after you’ve removed your shoe and your sock”

      or, “May you always run out of toilet paper when you most need it, every time, no matter where you are”

      continues to fantasise about other such curses

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      Nah, it’s actually about the hyper that makes violent comments okay. Hyperboles are usually used to make something apparent, in this case what’s being made apparent is the irony.

      For example: “Hey, can I go to the party?” “No” hard to interpret if it’s a joke “No fucking way dude, if I see you there I’ll fucking raze your household to the ground for 4 generations” < this is such an exaggeration that is simply can’t be true, which in turn implies that yeah, they can come.

      Of course, for it to be effective that must sound completely impossible to the listener, and as always context is important. Of the context of my hyper violent message is that I’m talking to my friends, they will know I’m joking.

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        Sure, but he’s had a lot of words to explain its hyperbole and he hasn’t yet.

        So purely based on the context presented, he comes off as extreme and doesn’t properly justify it in his later posts. I’m not going to research every single person’s background I come across, so you can bet this guy comes off as unhinged based on these posts.

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        purely based on the context presented, he comes off as extreme and doesn’t properly justify it in his later posts. I’m not going to research every single person’s background I come across, so you can bet this guy comes off as unhinged based on these posts.