President says ā€˜epidemic of gun violence is tearing our communities apartā€™ after mass shootings in Philadelphia, Fort Worth, Baltimore and Chicago

  • borkcorkedforks@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    My main point about an AWB in relation to suicides was more that people arenā€™t using those kinds of weapons for suicide. The kind weapons these laws are trying to describe arenā€™t even commonly used in crimes. The main reason theyā€™re talking about assault weapons now days is because targeting handguns first kinda stalled. That and the marketing works better for them.

    There are things they could do that would be effective but it would be other left wing policies that would address root causes. The issue with that is those things seem to be even more of a lip service thing and itā€™s kinda hard to bumper sticker that shit.

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      1 year ago

      So you agree itā€™s mostly political theater, on both sides? All the proponents of ā€œgun rightsā€ are just as pointless and theatrical as the gun bans they oppose? That coming out, guns blazing (as it were) against these measures is just another way to stir up an uninformed and apathetic base to action against the ā€œliberal eliteā€?

      Most of these measures are relatively toothless anyways, they affect tiny portions of the population, most of which just wonā€™t be able to purchase new weapons of that style, at least until the gun manufacturers find loopholes, as they always do.

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        There is political theater going on but with gun control laws theyā€™re not going to even stick due to lawsuits. Effectiveness is questionable as well.

        The laws do not affect a tiny portion of people though. Lots of weapons that fall under the idea of an assault weapons ban are extremely popular and common. Then such laws would affect future buyers including people who do not have the opportunity to buy something now or didnā€™t think to. Definitely a problem for someone a decade from now who was too young or wasnā€™t into firearms yet. Like that the whole point of the ban right? Stopping people from being able to own something.

        The ā€œloopholesā€ arenā€™t. Theyā€™re just making something that is in compliance. The problem is they donā€™t know how to define what they want to ban and the ban isnā€™t actually effective for the results they claim.