A panicky move to the cloud might be extremely expensive too. Especially if you don’t have cloud ready applications (old on prem apps, full fledged VMs, etc. )
That’s interesting, because hosting anything in the cloud is usually way more expensive than on prem. We just pulled a large number of our systems back out of gcp because of it.
Well that was my point, moving to the cloud requires drastic changes in the way your infra works. You cannot have full fledged VMs running at 10% of capacity 95% of the time like you do on prem. You need to be able to scale up and down on a whim with containers/micro services/whatever you call it. I’ve worked with a lot of companies that never understood that and bitterly regretted moving to the cloud.
Yup. I’ve seen companies that wanted to “get to the cloud” and didn’t want to spend any money on redeveloping their systems so it turned into a lift-and-shift which just drove their costs up.
We demonstrated one product worked well in the cloud by completely re-architecting it. It was a two year project. However then management was all gung ho, and set an extremely aggressive deadline, meaning lift and shift was the only possibility. However just before the new year, management finally realized just how expensive it was going to be, and changed their mind.
The thing is, our products are internet services, so we have to maintain data centers and networking at many locations around the world, and need to have the people to support that. However datacenters are not our core business and there’s a good argument that we should get out of it. Just not that way
O absolutely, but most of these companies don’t want to spend money to actually get to that point since they’re going to have to redev their applications and design, so they just tell the engineers to put everything one to one in the cloud.
My job estimated our VMware cost will be 10 times more expensive. We’re moving to the cloud as soon as possible.
A panicky move to the cloud might be extremely expensive too. Especially if you don’t have cloud ready applications (old on prem apps, full fledged VMs, etc. )
It’s not panic. We already have direct connects to AWS and Azure. It’s something we’ve been working on for five years now.
That’s interesting, because hosting anything in the cloud is usually way more expensive than on prem. We just pulled a large number of our systems back out of gcp because of it.
Well that was my point, moving to the cloud requires drastic changes in the way your infra works. You cannot have full fledged VMs running at 10% of capacity 95% of the time like you do on prem. You need to be able to scale up and down on a whim with containers/micro services/whatever you call it. I’ve worked with a lot of companies that never understood that and bitterly regretted moving to the cloud.
Yup. I’ve seen companies that wanted to “get to the cloud” and didn’t want to spend any money on redeveloping their systems so it turned into a lift-and-shift which just drove their costs up.
Hey hey my company is doing exactly this right now
“Get EVERYTHING OFF PREM. SEND ALL OF IT TO GCP NOW”
My company just came to their senses on this.
We demonstrated one product worked well in the cloud by completely re-architecting it. It was a two year project. However then management was all gung ho, and set an extremely aggressive deadline, meaning lift and shift was the only possibility. However just before the new year, management finally realized just how expensive it was going to be, and changed their mind.
The thing is, our products are internet services, so we have to maintain data centers and networking at many locations around the world, and need to have the people to support that. However datacenters are not our core business and there’s a good argument that we should get out of it. Just not that way
O absolutely, but most of these companies don’t want to spend money to actually get to that point since they’re going to have to redev their applications and design, so they just tell the engineers to put everything one to one in the cloud.
Haha, so you move from one bad decision to another? Being stuck at a lousy cloud company? Oh my!
We sell hardware built for and bundled with VMware. Customers are returning it. This isn’t a good look.
Not sure why they’d think cloud will be cheaper. If anything, costs are way more unpredictable from the research I’ve done.
Generally that is true only if you don’t know your workloads.
My workloads are open to students doing things on an LMS. Chaotic doesn’t begin to describe it. 🙃
Lol, THEY have no idea about workloads
Man I wish we could do this, but our customers won’t agree to processing their data in the cloud. We’re going to get milked so hard.