• Plum@lemmy.world
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    And then Jesus showed up and said, and I quote, “…if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.” But in Aramaic, I guess.

    Problem with sexy ladies? Not their problem.

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      Gouging you eye is exactly quitting gym in this context. If going so specific place causes you to stumble, don’t go to that place.

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      To be fair, he said they would be thrown to the Valley of Hinnom. Not the nicest of places, sure, but not literally a fiery hell.

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      And also learn to look at different things with both your eye at the same time Bro what are you doing wasting your life looking at the same thing with both day after day when you could be looking at twice as many things

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      He most likely does and posting to social media is his way to pay penance and make himself feel superior to his peers.

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        He’s gotta make sure you know the real villain!

        It’s not his wandering eyes, it’s the immodest harlots not following rules.

        I feel like I read something about plucking out wandering eyes… Hmm must be from some obscure atheist text.

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          Well that’s their mental back handspring with a twist they do: wandering eyes are sinful, and they are good Christians, they don’t want their eyes to wander because, again, they’re “good Christians.” So if they don’t want their eyes to wander, and god doesn’t want their eyes to wander, it’s the filthy harlots in their “immodest dress” that are the problem.

          Not the religion that has brainwashed them into thinking human sexuality is perverse and made them have full on diarrhea mouth.

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          Per the usual, punish the sex thats simply daring to go out on public not wearing a burka. Its their fault this good man nearly,

          checks notes

          wanked.

          -____-

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      Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

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    Just remember that these are the kind of people that believe that without the word of God to dictate morality to humanity that literally everyone would be a murdering, raping, cannibalistic monster. They literally cannot understand that people can be good without the fear of eternal damnation looming over them at all times.

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      Repeating myself, but the jackass who made Supersize Me had a short-lived tv show where people of opposing backgrounds swapped lives. The christian nutter went to live with Muslims and talked about how if you don’t get your values from the bible, he can’t imagine what you must believe.

      You’re spot on with this comment. They absolutely have an inability to think outside the confines of their own mental prisons. I’m sure that even pre-language proto-humans could discern morality and whether their actions were justified or not, even if unable to articulate the concept.

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        A lot of non huma animals are able to understand that their actions have a good or bad impact on others. Those people rank very low on evolutionary scale.

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      Cave into what? Dude saw a woman in yoga pants, and now he has to go on a rape rampage? Wtf?

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        Gross regardless but to be completely fair “cave in” within a conservative Christian context could literally mean just a side glance to get a good look at them

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          Could literally mean anything from having lusty thoughts to full-blown rape. This is one of those hope for the best kind of situations, but if he’s gonna tell us - even via ambiguous language - that he’s a threat to the safety of women around him, then it’s best to believe him.

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          I dunno, they get up to some creepy shit. Have you read their Bible? It’s pretty fucked up.

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            Oh yes i have, my point is still valid that he might mean something far more innocent than what it sounds like.

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              The Lord works in [ INFORMATION UNAVAILABLE DUE TO LEGAL SETTLEMENT OF MULTIPLE CHILD SEX ABUSE LAWSUITS ] ways.

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          I get that is the ideal they’d like to pretend is happening, but let’s be real that they’re already doing that. Without the rose-tinted glasses perspective, this is not what is actually being communicated.

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        These guys believe that the only way morality happens is if big Sky Daddy is watching them at all times with threats of terrible punishment. It’s why they literally don’t understand how non-Christians can be moral people.

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          Oh, I know. I have a mom who believes that she is entitled to be the most despicable and horrible person on earth because she prays to The Jesus™ for Forgiveness®, which makes everything she does A-OK!

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      While I think the whole thing is yikes, I think in this instance he’s referring to caving in to masturbation/porn, not rape… I hope.

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    The “before I cave in” remark is probably just about failing the “avert my eyes” thing and looking at the women in the Mat 5:28, committing adultery in your heart kind of way. From a Catholic perspective OOP’s concerns are completely reasonable as even thinking about sex too hard is supposed to send you to the forever torture zone. I doubt this guy is a hair trigger away from committing SA but the situation is disturbing in a few other ways

    Source: am ex-cradle-Catholic and read all the stuff about sexual morality

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      even thinking about sex too hard is supposed to send you to the forever torture

      Except for the part where literally any crime imaginable can be forgiven if you repent and believe in Jesus. Which kinda makes all the different rules Christianity imposes on its adherents completely moot.

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        Level 0 Christians learn it and it should make sense to you too, it’s not about punishment, it’s your own choice to break the rules

        Nothing in the bible says to enforce shit on others, in fact to stop doing that is preached everywhere in it

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      Yeah the “thought crime” aspects of some religions seems to be incredibly damaging. Like your brain is not fully under your control. Thought is a messy place. Treating it as an evil to always be expunged and rigidly controlled tends to translate into some pretty toxic behaviours or at the very least an erosion of self worth.

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      I feel I had a very different Catholic upbringing because I don’t find this reasonable from a Catholic perspective at all.

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    “Oh, my God, that’s disgusting! Women dressing immodestly? Where? Where were they at? The gym? Which one, there’s so many!”

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    The really insidious part of the Christian mythology is that it takes your most basic dive as a species to procreate and tells you it’s a sin. And of course, the only cure for that sin is the church that told you it is a sin.

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      He’s talking about things like lust, or masturbation, not assaulting someone. Thoughts that you consider normal, are things that religious people struggle with.

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        I literally hated myself if I got horny enough to masturbate, usually upwards to half a year of repressing myself. I refused to pursue romantic relationships, considering myself not good enough, despite others showing very direct interest.

        I’m much mentally healthier out of it.

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    “cave in”

    Like are we talking flirting or rape? Or masturbation?

    Do we have to call the authorities (Jesus) on his ass?

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    If thy right eye offend thee, bitch at strangers, for it is their fault for making you want to sin and not your fault for sinning

    —Republican Matthew, 5:29-30

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    At least he’s not putting the blame on the others.

    It’s fine if you want to go somewhere modest, just don’t make other people dress modest because you want to go there.

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      He is implicitly putting the blame on others. He’s blaming the women for how they dress, and the employees for not enforcing the ‘dress code’.

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        True… But at least his solution is to remove himself from the situation as opposed to trying to make things change at the gym to suit his needs.

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    Christianism preaches so much compassion, yet also teaches Christians not to have compassion even for themselves, for what is the natural reactions of impulses of the mind and body. Feeling lust towards someone you’re attracted to is natural. Feeling anger towards someone who harms you is natural. What matters is whether your actions you choose to commit after having those thoughts may bring harm to yourself or others, but when you think you have a security guard monitoring your thoughts every second of your life, it’s much harder to reach that conclusion. Like another user said down here, this guy would have a much healthier life if he just had a wank when he came back home.