That’s not a bad thing I think. If you switch because you still wanted to connect to that instance, that’s good, because you moved to an instance that more closely aligns with your values (i.e. more closely aligns to what you want to federate/defederate to/from).
Oh yes yes - sorry, I am not advocating for or against defederating lemmy.ml. I was just saying if you find another instance bad or annoying, you might not still want to see their comments and votes, and in this case a defederation would be better than a user-level block.
I just mean if an instance turns bad or malicious in some way (through excessive propaganda or any other reason), that’s a legitimate reason to defederate and blocking cannot stop all malicious acts. Defederation is the only method to actually supress it entirely.
It also allows comments and votes from the blocked instance to still get through though. You don’t necessarily want that.
Even if you block an instance, you still see comments from that instance and the instance can also still influence your feed via voting. Which means propaganda or what’s worse can still be pushed to people’s feeds.
Just keep that in mind - defederation is a more effective tool, but obviously it should be used with care.
Can’t stand a community or instance? Don’t subscribe. Or unsubscribe or block.
I agree that defederations should not be done lightly, but I just want to point out that “just block” is not a foolproof strategy. An instance block on Lemmy functions like blocking all communities, so you will still see comments from that instance on other posts. Also, the blocked instance will still influence your feed via their votes.
it has a responsibility to support the network
Well, on the other hand it also has a responsibility to provide a reasonably well-moderated space that doesn’t include bigots or what’s worse.
To be clear, I am not advocating for or against defederation of lemmy.ml, just want to add some nuance to this.
Its been a focus of mine to try to make lemmy’s comment sorting the opposite of the reddit experience, where the highest rated comment is nearly always just the first one, making all engagement after those first few minutes pointless.
I think your strategy for going the opposite than reddit works quite well when it comes to comments. However, I don’t think it fits so well with posts (not sure if the strategy/sorting for posts and comments use the same methods). Personally I don’t feel great seeing posts older than 24 hours, especially as I have probably already seen that post. It’ll just stick around for way too long.
So… What are you supposed to do with oil if not pouring it down the drain?
Interesting that you can almost see east and west germany on the map.
She looks no older than maybe 5 years or maybe a bit older - that would make her around 70 today. Pretty likely she’s still alive.
People in here are arguing about whether the government should be able to allow or disallow protests, i.e. “legal” or “illegal” protests.
I think Denmark has a good middle ground solution to this: Protests must be declared to the police ahead of time, so they know it is happening. Note that this is not an application or an ask for permission! You always have permission, you only have to make the police aware that you are protesting, so they can monitor it and ensure it follows law and order and doesn’t turn violent.
A major Danish news site recently said they’d delete their accounts on Twitter :)
Although no plans for making a Mastodon account instead :(
the reality is such that the vast majority will go with the flow
This also works the other way though - once a critical mass moves elsewhere, the mob is quick to follow. I would encourage you to be part of that early snowball that starts the avalanche - be the change.
mostly my local police, fire department, and local govt are only on xitter
The thing is, they are there because the users are there. After all, they want to reach the most people with their important official messaging.
You have to leave to make them leave.
Right - perhaps an alternative user for your “scientific research” is an appropriate measure in that case? :P just a suggestion
any discourse here is almost immediately met with deletions and bans … trigger happy mods
This really depends what instance you go to and what their standards of moderation are. If you’re not happy with your current instance admins / community moderators, then go to another instance or another community (or petition your current mods/admins to improve the situation).
I get controls to block all of the communities that I don’t want to listen to … Lemmy gives you the ability to block instances
Yes, mostly. Keep in mind that blocking communities and instances only affects which posts you see in their feed - the members of those communities and instances still get to vote on the other stuff that is in your feed and affect the post ranking in that way. The only way to avoid that is defederation.
new lemmynsfw community every 30 seconds
Wouldn’t an instance-level block fix this?
no distinction in NSFW topics either - whereas there should be NSFW (Porn) and NSF[L] (Gore), etc.
Tbf this is no different than Reddit and there’s a lack of support in the underlying protocol - it’s not entirely clear how this should be more generally implemented either. You probably want a more generalized tagging system, not just one additional category on top of NSFW.
Generally there’s only 2 big problems for me:
Still better than Reddit or Facebook 🤷
Remember that the fediverse (lower case f, like “internet”) is about choice, and that choice is primarily about your admins. On Reddit, if you didn’t like a subreddit, you could go to another subreddit or start your own subreddit, so you had some choice of moderators. But you were locked to the Reddit admins.
On the fediverse, you should vote with that choice, in the same way you vote with your wallet or vote in actual political elections in real life.
So don’t just go to the largest and most active instance “just because”. Consider your options, find an instance that fits your interests or your location and which has admins that seem reasonable to you, with rules that seem reasonable to you. Remember that different instances are different websites altogether - what goes on one instance might be heinous on another.
That’s kind of an unwritten rule - every instance is different and has their own rules, written or unwritten. Be mindful of that when choosing your own instance and when visiting other instances.
Security concerns? Closed-source software is a security concern in itself!