As shitty as it is, this country 1. Isn’t designed in such a way that would allow a third-party candidate a genuine chance of winning and 2. Has too many centrists that will vote for Biden regardless. Trump has repeatedly garnered heavy support in Republican polls, so they’re pretty much almost all in on him. Splitting the blue vote between Biden and whoever else will only lead to a Trump victory after which we might not even be ABLE to vote in 2028.
I’m legitimately having a panic attack. These airheaded anarcho-kiddies are genuinely going to land us all in camps.
biden’s doing literally nothing to stop states from criminalizing lgbt people’s existence 
their fears about a trump presidency are valid but i wish these libs would stop putting their hopes in the DNC when its clear they have zero interest in running a candidate that isn’t complete dogshit
So what you’re telling me is that the only way to prevent trans genocide is for Democrats to win every election for every seat, forever? And then you just hope they don’t decide to compromise across the aisle out of fairness like they do constantly when in power or form a Democratic Anti-Trans caucus that pushes for it just like DFLA has done with abortion?
Yeah, that all seems like a feasible and robust strategy with long-term stability.
“Ash why is hexbear the only trans space you visit?”
I see this sentiment a lot here and it seems like a no brainer that this is that place not just because it is explicitly trans positive, but explicitly revolutionary in its politics. Any space that is not sufficiently radical will always let the ladder pullers lib up the place and carry water for fascists and bigots.
It is the perfect combo!
I think the one thing I knew about Harris before the 2020 primaries was that she was particularly cruel to transwomen in her jails. Like she made a point to be, so much that it was a scandal in a country this transphobic.
The courts ordered her to provide trans health care, said it was ‘cruel and unusual punishment under the 8th amendment’ to deny services. She fought with every tool available, delaying and appealing to a higher court when told no. Using TERF language that trans healthcare causes irreversible damage and that inmates can wait until after they are no longer her problem. [2015]
“There is no evidence that irreversible treatment is immediately necessary”
“the record demonstrates that the Defendants will be irreparably injured if the district court’s order stands and surgery goes forward”Her explanations changed over time. From ‘no comment’, to ‘the law is forcing me to do this’, then ‘it is unfortunate my staff did all this, I was actually fighting this injustice and despite being in charge was powerless to stop them’.
Wtf… I’ven’t heard of that before…
https://theappeal.org/incarcerated-transgender-womens-lives-must-matter/
(CW: transphobia)
spoiler
When Kamala Harris announced her run for president on Jan. 21, a reporter asked her about the 2015 case of Michelle-Lael Norsworthy, a trans woman incarcerated in California’s prison system who petitioned prison officials to grant her request for gender affirming surgery. In 2015, Harris was California’s attorney general and her office filed a request in federal court to halt a court ruling that ordered Norsworthy’s surgery, arguing that “there is no evidence that irreversible treatment is immediately necessary before this appeal can be heard.” Nearly four years later, Harris didn’t answer the question about Norsworthy. In response to the reporter, Harris replied “it was an office with a lot of people … and do I wish that sometimes they would have personally consulted me before they wrote the things that they wrote? Yes, I do.” Harris then added that she “worked behind the scenes to ensure that the Department of Corrections would allow transitioning inmates to receive the medical attention that they required, they needed and deserved.”
pretty standard cop material
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/j7lo2d/collage_created_with_the_photos_of_black_males/
CW: reddit link
Collage made out of black men Kamala Harris kept in prison past legally necessary for free prison labor. I remember seeing this one float around lefty reddit before the 2020 elections
the comments talking about how she hadn’t persecuted all of them, and some are repeated one jumped out at me 27 times
oh no, so just like, a lot of them then? phew
Same
Just spent 15 mins making 15 comments, a new record, what’s your excuse for not brigading?
Edit: I got the thread locked, how you like them fuckin apples
I felt a wave of intense anger bubble up and decided to get a sandwich instead
Don’t bother getting mad, judging by the responses I’m getting these people are political toddlers
unfortunately you have to vote for him if you prefer to keep personal liberties we enjoy.
I mean look at this goofy shit
I hope “anarkiddy” becomes the new “tankie” and all the MLs in the audience have to put up with being called it. It’s only fair that we swap once in a while.
ngl I’ll actually probably get mad the first few times that happens lol
Hey, this is totally off-topic to the thread, but your mentioning being an ML reminded me that I’ve been meaning to ask you: Where did you get that imperialists need to actively under-develop the countries they exploit for it to be imperialism? My leftcom buddies insist that even if they are contributing to the development of a country’s MoP, they can still be doing imperialism. I broadly agree with you but don’t have the, uh, theoretical competence that you might have.
Not the person, but for a leftcom (and even more strictly applied ML theory) imperialism is when you have a different ‘economic zone’ that applies to another country. Essentially it is when you have ‘rules for thee but not for me’. The classical mercantile imperial model develops the extractive industries of a colony, while the actual processing industry exists at home. You use cheap labor in the colony to extract the materials, refine them back at home, and then sell them back to the colony, rather than developing the colonies ability to feed and educate itself, and then also develop it’s means of production. Instead, MoP is developed mostly for the benefit of the colonizer. This is also maintained through different labor laws applying to these different zones, which are then enforced with extreme prejudice, which is the hallmark of imperialism. This is laid out in Lenin’s ‘Imperialism’.
Now, what leftcoms usually miss imo is the part where it is an outside force that is enforcing this through violence. For example, many leftcoms believe that what China is doing is ‘imperialism’ especially since it often relies on creating differently taxes economic zones within areas of Africa (or more pedantically saying that the communist party elites have sold out the proletariat of China to the highest bidder on the international market). While there is an argument to be made there, I think the important thing to note is that China does not (or at least hasn’t yet) enforced their deals in Africa with military force, but instead through long term structural development deals where they develop the infrastructure of country on the cheap (because excess construction labor is something they have in abundance) in exchange for these economic zones where their population can immigrate to and work. It ultimately a win-win imo, and looks fundamentally different than previous versions of imperialism. Additionally, despite ‘selling out their proletariat’ the Chinese Communist Party has demonstratively not given up their control over the means of production and it’s development. Wether you agree with it or not, what is happening to them is not ‘imperialism’, it’s something else.
Capitalist development (i.e. investment in equipment and materials) is where the tendency for the rate of profit to fall comes from; as the amount of fixed capital increases in the system (machines, infrastructure, education, etc) the less labor is needed to produce the same quantity of commodities. As labor is the source of all value, reducing the labor inputs actually reduces the value of the physical output of the system.
Underdevelopment is a tactic whereby this process is undercut by deploying counteracting factors to reduce the rate at which profit falls, chiefly superexploitation of the workers and immiseration of the population. Instead of investing in fixed capital to extract resources and reduce the need for human labor (i.e. development), imperialism sidesteps the problem by using military and police instead.
Within the imperial core the tendency of the rate of profit to fall is also counteracted because the resource colony cheapens the elements of constant capital, industrial inputs, and consumer goods. Even better, underdevelopment increases migration away from imperialized nations towards the core, increasing the surplus army of labor and allowing for the creation of internal colonies of superexploited workers within the imperial core itself! This allows for further capitalist development within the imperial core without reducing the rate of profit because, while labor inputs decrease for the core workers, they remain constant or increase for imperialized workers.
… at least, that’s as much as I understand. Still need to read more theory.
I get very frustrated in community spaces when i’m called an anarchist for just being there, it’d be so much worse from a lib 🤢
synthesis: tankiddie, anartankiddie
anartankiddeez nuts
I’m legitimately having a panic attack. These airheaded anarcho-kiddies are genuinely going to land us all in camps.
Meanwhile the guy you support is literally putting people in the largest concentration camp in the world. How fucking selfish can you be. Oh no don’t put me in a camp, I’m fine with you putting all those people in a camp but not meeeee!
Liberals’ problem with the Nazis is that they targeted the wrong people
Nah their only problem with the Nazis is that they went west first instead of east.
There’s literally a whole poem about this. Read theory, I guess?
This is a real comment:
Shouldn’t these numbers be seen as a major victory, especially with Biden being blamed by pro-Russian and Chinese bots on social media and by billionaire-owned news agencies for things outside of his control? - As for Palestine, he’s been pushing for a ceasefire for a long time now, he’s been admonishing Israel, and he’s been dropping aid to Gaza. The countries that have stonewalled the ceasefire are the same ones that have smeared him on social media - Russia and China. - In terms of his successes/effectiveness, what are your thoughts on… his masterful handling of the Ukraine war
I feel like I’m losing my mind. I can’t do this any more. These people live in a fucking fantasy world.
Bidens “ceasefire” was literally telling Palestinians to stop fighting so that Israel can come in and Massacare them. Props to Russia and China for vetoing this shit.
They talk about Biden “admonishing” Netanyahu, but it was always just Biden getting sassy with Netanyahu on the phone, and then immediately sending him billions of dollars worth of weapons after they hang up. Like Biden hasn’t been instrumental in manufacturing Western consent and support for the genocide of Palestinians for the last 6 months
They talk about Biden “admonishing” Netanyahu, but it was always just Biden getting sassy with Netanyahu on the phone
Listen Jack, please stop calling Obama the n word
he’s being so tough on Netanyahu!
In terms of his successes/effectiveness, what are your thoughts on… his masterful handling of the Ukraine war
It’s gonna take people awhile to come terms with the collective west getting absolutely wrecked by the Russian untermensch.
The countries that have stonewalled the ceasefire are the same ones that have smeared him on social media - Russia and China
What the actual fuck
This is because China and Russia correctly shot down the fake ceasefire proposed by
in the UN which would have given a bunch of shit to 
Libs just eat up the propaganda like dogs
They never read beyond the headlines
This person lives in a mind palace of their own design, but instead of imagining something cool they just imagine that Joe Biden is doing ineffectual posturing.
These people live in a fucking fantasy world
Worse
They live in a fantasy world and accuse everyone who dares question even the slightest part of the fantasy of being some sort of evil foreign actor, or else the ones truly in a fantasy world
It’s disgusting and insidious
Lying by omission by saying he admonished Israel and dropped aid to Gaza. He didn’t admonish Israel, he vocally expressed displeasure with Netanyahu while shipping infinite aid to him. He literally dropped a pittance of aid on Gaza and killed people with it.
What Chinese bots? Reddit is swarming with Israeli bots and these dumbasses are still focused on Russian Facebook pages.
Just so we’re clear here: Zionist astroturfing is a real, actual thing on Reddit.
I’ve posted things mildly critical of Israel on an unrelated, non-political, extremely niche and tiny subreddit. Then I wake up the next morning to a tidal wave of ACTUALLY ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF YOU ANTISEMITE replies, that outnumber the tiny community’s actual subscriber count.
Same. They’re all over Reddit and are pretty easy to spot. These liberals ignore that and instead accuse every leftist of being a Russian or Chinese bot.
Oh he’s dropping aid alright.
Has Genocide Joe done anything in the last 3 years to even remotely suggest he cares about protecting the lives of trans people?
As with most things there’s a pretty convincing argument to be made that having a democratic president stifles all progressive movements.
The only difference I’ve seen between the Trump and Biden residencies is when Trump was president every liberal had BLM in their profile and theybwere mad about discrimination, treatment of immigrants and fascism.
Now there’s a dem president those same people are lecturing everybody to stop complaining because it’s making them look bad, even though 4 years ago theyw ere complaining about the same stuff and nothing changed.
If Trump had won a second term every lib in congress would have “free palestine” and “the first pride was a riot” in their bios.
Instead we get the same libs posting Biden with laser eyes talking shit about unions and not understanding that “dark brandon” is funny because it plays on the absurdist notion that Biden would ever do something good.
TIL 80% of /r/ask_transgender live in Ohio, Michigan, and Georgia.
And assume everyone else does too. Just like lots of reddit constantly assume everyone there is American.
Over half of Reddit is American, with English and Candians being the next to largest groups at about 10% each. Unless you are in a country specific sub, or a hibby sub for something not common in the us, chances are that you are talking to an American.
According to reddit’s own statistics, 40% of Reddit users total are from the US, and 49% of active daily users.
Unless you are in a country specific sub, or a hibby sub for something not common in the us, chances are that you are talking to an American.
Your odds are about 50/50 US to rest-of-world.
So it’s a safe assumption that the oerson you are talking to on Reddit is an American is what you are saying
If you consider more likely wrong than right to be a safe assumption then sure.
America is literally in the same state as late 1920s Germany except that there are no Communists fighting fascism. Democrats will keep bringing politics rightwards and eventually you’ll have someone as bad as trump in power because Muh election of the Century will be fought between Mega Hitler and Omega Hitler and you’ll have to choose which one is the lesser of two evils.
I see waaaaay too many center left pieces that are like “Weimar Republic now??” that completely ignore the fact that there is no The Left in the U.S.A. much less any kind of real SPD equivalent.
Whiner republic
The Democrats are very much an SPD in the sense of “national-chauvinist warmonger party that deliberately alienates anybody to the left of them while hoping that the worst centrist reactionaries are willing and able to hold back fascism with them when they are actually neither”, but you can admittedly argue that they are very unlike the Weimar era SPD when it comes to healthcare or having functional infrastructure or all the other things that got permanently declared impossible utopianism under Reagan.
Yeah that’s what I meant. Their positions on what workers deserve and what society at large should be like was still far left of American Dems.
Smh at these tankies whining about minor issues like genocide. We gotta stop with these insane purity tests. They should focus on what really matters instead, passing that border bill and getting more machine gun turrets built.
Ahhh! It is literally an endorsement! Voting for Biden tells him and the Democrats that genocide is acceptable to their voter base. It doesn’t matter what polls say if people vote for the Dems they will keep supporting genocide because that’s what a vote is, it’s an endorsement of that candidate and their policies.
For a long time I was of the mindset that its not an endorsement, because internally an endorsement of all of their policies was not why I was voting for Democrats. I had a similar mindset to this person, I wanted to elect Democrats because I felt like less people get hurt that way. Trolley problem shit. And I had a terrible time getting over that mindset.
I still have a bit of trouble getting over that mindset, and the sentence “a vote is an endorsement” still gives me a bit of a ??? reaction.
But I think it was the realization that they see it as an endorsement that did it for me though. Like it doesnt matter what I think my vote is about really.
a chess move is when you keep playing the same move like it’s checkers and going
when it has the same results.patzer sees blue, patzer votes blue
they just can’t stop talking out of both sides of their mouth. voting for the “lesser of two evils” is just pragmatism in a broken system, but also if you imply that we could win any concessions from power by withholding our votes you’re delusional and if you question the necessity of preserving such a fundamentally broken system you’re selfish and if so much as mention the possibility of breaking the law in this moment of total crisis, you’re a radical terrorist.
i don’t see how these bozos imagine–after witnessing the biden administration enthusiastically sell out the muslim / arab sympathizing portion of the dem coalition to watch their families and friends be slaughtered by organized genocide–they can expect any protection from it going forward. that is the lesson here: if they can do it to any of us this easily and eagerly, they can and will do it to all of us as soon as some ghoulish and inhumane calculation of imperial preservation triggers it. unless, of course these specific bozos imagine themselves different / better / more worthy of protection than “those people”. which is very possible.
as someone here once quipped, “We gotta do genocide over there, so we don’t have genocide over here!”
and the not protecting abortion, and letting covid run rampant, and breaking the rail strike, and continuing the obama-trump border fascism, and…
indeed, though those are all things that the media has been able to obscure for many americans using some managed narratives. the palestinian genocide has pierced the veil of the spectacle by virtue of its sustained and incredible violence for so many months. the hasbara campaign has been firing on all cylinders, but it’s not enough. too much footage is getting out. and the administration’s only move is to insist that we all deny what we are seeing and try to ban the most visible and accessible technology that is delivering it to people’s screens.
its hard to overstate how much less control US empire has today over what people are seeing compared to 2003 and the iraq war.
if we dont
all trans people will be genocided! what do you mean theyre currently doing that in florida, obviously itd be way more genocide if biden wasnt in charge!
Funny cuz most of the anarchists on
are the ones screaming at you to vote for Joe.Gonna have to defend the honor of anarchists here - those aren’t real anarchists.
I was on r/anarchism for a while, anyone serious left reddit long ago, that sub was fairly active over a year ago but is dead last I saw
As a former anarchist, the western anarchist movement had a bit of a weird liberal undercurrent for a while. I knew people who were pretty solid comrades in most regards, did really good local activism, but whenever discussion left the US borders things got… weird. There was always weird takes on AES states and US foreign policy. I never knew an anarchist back then who was straight up PRO-Iraq War but I knew a few who were gun-shy about coming out fully anti-war cuz they didn’t want to come of as “Saddam apologists”. Hence the rise of NATO-anrchists didn’t really surprise me as much as some people.
You think if it originated more in the context of the Global South, that Anarchism would be less ‘libby’ and more better on political views
I mean, it’s still prbly gonna ultra-left but come on…
I’ve only encountered a handful but yeah I would say non-western anarchists tend to have better perspectives on geopolitics.
The ones in the global south are more or less the same. Find leftists in AES countries doing CIA work and you’ll find Anarchists. Didn’t Pussy Riot claim to be Anarchists?
over a year ago
lol. lmao. reddit anarchists have always been shitty.
sincerely,
a former reddit anarchist who hasn’t logged into the site in four years
those aren’t real anarchists.
Hot take: I don’t really like this whole “they aren’t REAL [insert ideology]”, it’s a game anyone can play, and win, and feels like a bit of a cop out. The definition of a political ideology is malleable and changes all the time, anyone can come up with their own interpretation and the only thing really determining it’s validity is it’s popularity. If Vaush became as popular as Kropotkin was in his day and remained that way long enough his interpretation would be as valid.
I think it’s better to attack them on more solid grounds than whether it’s a real/not real interpretation, you can say it’s ridiculous, contradictory, in contrast to pretty much every other earlier interpretation, but it’s not really “fake”, no more or less so than any idea floating in the human collective consciousness.
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“If Racist Pedophile Marx became more popular than Regular Marx his interpretation would be as valid.”
Not “valid” in the moral sense, but it would be a “valid” in the sense that people would consider it an interpretation, a horrible, awful one, but it would exist. We don’t really pull this with anyone to our Right politically, nobody really gives a fuck that modern MAGA doesn’t seem to have anything to do with Thomas Sowell or William F Buckley Jr.
these people are genuinely just not anarchists by definition.
But who sets the definition? With Marxism you do have the fact the ideology is named after a specific guy so you can argue people who claim to be “Marxist” but who’s conceptualization of Marxism is too far from Marx’s original ideas are operating in error, but even early anarchism had a lot of internal divisions and wildly different interpretation.
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So if we have a concept defined by opposition to hierarchy
Here’s the thing, people have different conceptualizations of what a “hierarchy” is. Plus a lot of anarchists say they’re only opposed to “unjustified hierarchy”. I think how the AnCaps conceptualize it is that me declaring myself feudal baron over the parcel of land I acquired by being such a brilliant entrepreneur is a justified hierarchy, cuz I actually earned that unlike the evil guberment. That completely falls apart in practice, which is what we should be attacking them on.
With NATO-Anarchists I think their logic is “lesser-of-two-hierarchy-ism”, they see NATO and the West as hierarchical, but Russian Nationalism and Chinese Dengism are WORSE hierarchies, so unless full anarchism is on the table you should support NATO in the short term.
See the thing is these bull-crap pseudo-left ideologies usually have a kernel of logic to them, unlike the far right which is just willfully incoherent mind palace shit. We should be attacking them on the logic of it, not having semantic debates about what is and isn’t an actual anarchist.
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We can push him left if we make him google Murray Bookchin. That’s my only demand.
I’m seeing a lot of “we just have to do this for this election, guys! then we can vote against the genocidal democrat!” in there, and like… are people legitimately not aware that Trump will absolutely run in every presidential election until he’s elected or dies?
they’re literally holding the carrot of “Trump magically won’t run after this election, guys!” in front of their own noses, and it’s disgusting.
at least if Trump wins this election, and doesn’t move insanely fast to dismantle constitutional government structure (which sure doesn’t seem like a mere four-year task to me), he’ll have hit his term limit and we won’t have to worry about him anymore. I’m sure the republicans will run somebody equally evil after Trump hits his term limit, but like, come on, libs, use your fucking brains.
Yeah and before trump it was “binders full of women” Romney and before that it was “insane and old” McCain and before that it was Dubya and before… It’s been “we just this one election” for some decades now
How many more of these stinking, double-downer sideshows will we have to go through before we can get ourselves straight enough to put together some kind of national election that will give me and the at least 20 million people I tend to agree with a chance to vote FOR something, instead of always being faced with that old familiar choice between the lesser of two evils?
- Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72
Over fifty years
Fifty years is also some decades
(Love that quote and thank you for sharing it)
Bro just one more election bro.
Bro I swear just one more act of lesser evilism and it’ll fix the entire political landscape bro.
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T> Democrats will elevate the next crazy Republican
It continues to blow my mind that to this day we have incontrovertible evidence that Hillary Clinton’s campaign worked to boost Trump, directlyt helping him win, and none of these “the anarcho kiddies will land us in camps” liberals even give a shit
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Media just had to rename and reframe pied piper and the whole podesta email fiasco as “Russian hacks” and i guess that’s a magic button in people’s minds to just… not investigate the content of those emails.
“Investigating or reading the emails would be falling for Russian propaganda!” 
You get down oted like crazy elsewhere for even bringing it up. I am currently in a conversation where I brought it up. Can’t wait to see what their rebuttal is
This is what we where told last time
Heard that shit for 2 decades at this point. As soon as the dem wins the lectures and excuses come out.
Ok at least the mod posted maybe the funniest comment they could (by accident).
THAT IS LITERALLY EXACTLY OUR ONLY JOB OMFG LMAO
no no no being a mod is when you are one of the few chosen posters, on a pedestal if you will, more equal than the other posters as one might say.
my transition is old enough to vote, and it will
tagline drop?
