WASHINGTON, D.C. – After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve.

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    Israel has had a permanent occupation of the Occupied Palestinian Territories since 1967, maintaining an apartheid state through direct and indirect violence.

    Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation.

    What Is Hamas? - Council on Foreign Relations

    What Does Hamas Actually Want? - NY Mag

    Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.

    Hamas Election - Snopes

    Hamas 1988 Charter and Revised 2017 Charter

    The 1988 Charter, which is certainly unreasonable in its fundamentalism with Sharia Law and is antisemitic, does not call for the extermination of all Jewish People. The 2017 Revised charter accepts a Two-State Solution of the 1967 Borders. Check Article 7 and 13 of the 1988 Charter to see yourself, compare it to Article 20 and 24-26 in the revised charter

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        The slogan From the River to the Sea is about Palestinian liberation that started in the 60s by the PLO for a democratic secular state. You’re thinking of the Syrian leader Hafez al-Assad in 1966.

        Before 1948, Palestinian Leadership repeatedly advocated for a Unitary Binational State for decades.

        The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948

        Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928

        Arab Higher Committee advocating for Unified State 1937

        Arab League advocating for Unified Binational State 1948

        Partition and later the Peace Process, like the Oslo Accords, have been wielded by Israel to annex and divide as much Palestinian land as possible with the least amount of Palestinians.

        Oslo Accords MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ

        All members of Hamas and other militant groups who have committed war crimes need to be tried on an international court, the same as all the Israeli officials that have. Palestinians need liberation and to have democratically elected representatives.

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            Israel is an Apartheid State. Palestinians have lived under the military control of Israel for generations, enforced with daily violence both direct and indirect. For People living under apartheid, liberation is the end of that apartheid state. That means coexistence, you’re the one thinking that means genocide.

            What does liberation look like to Hamas?

            For Hamas, and for the Palestinians, it can be either a two-state solution or a one-state solution. If you ask this question to a Hamas leader, he would say, “I don’t have the answer, because I’m not the one who decides. I’m not going to talk about what the Palestinians will want in the future. We’re just dealing with the national liberation struggle at the moment.”

            So there’s not necessarily a clearly defined goal. It’s about getting to a better position day by day.

            Of course. You know why? Because on the Israeli side, there is no clear position. Sometimes they talk about achieving an agreement, but they don’t know what this agreement would look like. Most of the time they say that they don’t want the Palestinians to have a state. There is no clear vision.

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                Hamas’ atrocities against civilians are not justified, dude. If you’re against that you should recognize Israel has attacked magnitudes more civilians both before and certainly after Oct 7th, especially women and children.

                Understanding the context as to why these attacks happened is not a justification, it’s necessary to understand and recognize the underlying reasons in order to determine an avenue for peace and end the hostilities.

                You’re the one justifying Israel’s genocide with that last sentence. Wiping out Hamas has been their justification for targeting and destroying Hospitals, Schools, Refugee Camps, and Aid deliveries. That’s the justification for cutting of all water/electricity/medical supplies on top of an unending bombing campaign that target civilians and civilian infrastructure. Everyone in Gaza is facing Catastrophic risk of Famine, a man-made famine by Israel blocking aid, food, and water, dozens have already died and many more soon will without help.

                Hamas has committed war crimes, documented by Human Rights Organizations. That doesn’t change the fact that Israel is responsible for the Settler Colonialism, Ethnic Cleansing, and Apartheid that is the foundation for all this violence. Israel holds all the power to end the conflict, but has instead only increased hostilities with Apartheid State Violence and Settler Violence.

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                    No, Hamas can’t end the apartheid and occupation by surrendering. You fundamentally misunderstand the development and continuation of the occupation. You’re also making things up about why Hamas decided to attack instead of learning the actual reasons.

                    I’ve already given links to learn about the escalation of violence in my first response. Seems like you’d rather believe what you want to.