cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/15271710

Not a good result. The good amendment to add a warrant requirement failed on a tie vote; bad amendments to expand the scope of warrantless wiretapping passed. Next step: a Senate vote.

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    7 months ago

    I’m sure as I type this there are men beating their wives and children, maybe to death.

    Should the government put cameras in every house to prevent this?

    If not, why do you hate women and children and want them to die?

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        7 months ago

        The Patriot Act* didn’t exist before 9/11. Your argument is invalid.

        Also, the NSA can get the FBI to get a warrant for the person in the US. We already have mechanisms for monitoring communications in the US.

        * It’s actually called the USA PATRIOT Act, which is an acronym for “Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism.” I prefer the acronym U SAP AT RIOT/

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        7 months ago

        What if they never wrote “bin Laden Determined to Strike US” because they didn’t know?

        They got that information before section 702 was a thing. You’re supporting GWB’s wiretapping policy.

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            7 months ago

            The memo gwb ignored before 9/11 was before section 702 existed. 702 didn’t go into effect until 2008.

            If you don’t want me to downvote you, don’t lie in support of a gwb policy.

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                7 months ago

                You don’t understand the program

                I understand that whenever a centrist is dead wrong about something, they pull this gaslighting horseshit.

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                    7 months ago

                    You pretended that a policy that didn’t exist before 2008 provided the intel Bush ignored before 9/11.

                    You don’t understand how linear time works, and have presented no facts.