• comfy@lemmy.ml
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    3 years ago

    The title is certainly misleading. Turkey is entering Northern Iraq to launch offensives on the PKK killing their members, and has been building military bases in Iraq. Turkey’s leader has claimed "this operation, […] we are carrying out in close cooperation with the central Iraqi government and the regional administration in northern Iraq.”

    To call it an invasion of Iraq is implying there’s no consent from Iraq’s government. I’m against the attacking of the PKK but this is not in any way comparable to a Ukraine’s government not consenting to Russia’s offensive.

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      Turkey is entering Northern Iraq to launch offensives on the PKK killing their members

      I agree the situation is not comparable to Ukraine, but Turkey’s war on the Kurdish people (among other peoples they genocided) is nothing new, and in the past years the Turkish military has attacked or invaded sovereign territories in Rojava (Syria) as well and that was without support from any local administration. Likewise, the turkish military has invaded the colonized regions of “turkish” Kurdistan often replacing the local government with military official. It was justified in the fight against “terrorism”.

      I downvoted, not because you’re wrong in what you say, but in what you don’t say: saying this has nothing to do with a colonial aggression is short-sighted.

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      3 years ago

      Russia is literally invading ukraine for the exact same reasons. Imagine next door theres a ton of bases with a bunch of fucking nazis! Anybody with a brain would kill them immediately!

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        3 years ago

        The difference, as explained in the comment that you are replying to, is that Turkey is doing that in agreement with the Iraqi government, while Russia’s attack is directed against the Ukrainian government.

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        Well, you see, the Nazis are part of the National Guard and not an insurgency the Ukrainians were trying to remove, so that’s not the same.

        Or are you implying that Turkey going next door and killing Kurdish socialist separatists is the same ethical situation?

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          well I don’t care, you kill people who are nazis, plain and simple. The Kurds have been a US tool to cause mayhem, and the US would destroy them the moment they became useless.

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        Russia is not trying to hide the fact that they are trying to take over parts of Ukraine. Turkey is not doing that here.

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          3 years ago

          When has the internal government (not your fucking news screaming bullshit, I mean the words of all of the government) said they are doing this to take over ukraine? They are even setting up another people’s republic, I think it is in the odessa region.

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        Turkey is killing Kurdish separatists with (according to Turkey’s president) Iraq’s consent. It’s literally not an invasion against Iraq. You could claim it’s an invasion against the Kurdish insurgency, maybe.

        Your post sounds like a knee-jerk reaction that doesn’t attempt to understand the situation. I prefer the separatists over Turkey but come one, this is just a silly reply.

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    This is obviously not a NATO operation,
    history tells us the conflict emerged under Mustafa Kemal “Atatürk” back in 1923,
    like 26 years before NATO was founded.