• Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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    people getting therapy included in their healthcare is good, its just that everyone should get it without having to rely on the caprice of employers

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      Also, drugging people up shouldn’t be used to paper over brutally exploitative working conditions that cause psychological damage.

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          And depression, as well as other mental health problems can often be a direct outcome of being overworked, and having to deal with poor working conditions.

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              Yeah, you absolutely should hate the fact that you need to have insurance from companies. Organizing irl is not mutually exclusive with pointing obvious things out online either.

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          And there’s absolutely no problem with that. The issue I’m highlighting is using drugs to paper over problems that are a direct result of shitty working conditions.

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            if i get injured on the worksite and i’m given drugs & care to recover it is ‘papering over’ the mistakes & conditions that led to my injury, and getting me back to work faster. but i rather prefer that to having a longer convalescence–>possible unemployment & future medical consequences. don’t you? even state-run medical systems can be critiqued for prioritizing getting people back to work over the best interests of the patients, but i don’t see how complaining about novel therapies being offered to some privileged workers is a good way to make that point

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              Again, I’m not arguing against legitimate use cases for drug therapy here. 🤷

              What I’m saying is that working conditions need to be improved, and then any psychological problems people have that are not a result of exploitation should absolutely be treated using therapy. I’m not sure how much more clear I can make this.

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                I get what you’re saying, but you keep wording it in a way that like, implies you think health issues caused by exploitation don’t still need to be treated, regardless of their origin. This stuff should be covered for anyone that needs it full stop. AND working conditions need to improve. Unless there’s evidence that the medical treatment is actually improper (using much higher than therapeutic doses for example), there’s no issue here really (with the covering of novel therapies, specifically)

                You can say the increased need for treatment is a sign of damaging exploitative conditions and I’d agree but that isn’t what the article is about

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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                  No, I’m not implying anything of the sort. Nowhere am I arguing against treating health issues, and I’ve been as explicit as humanly possible regarding that point.

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    I get the urge to view this cynically because how can you not, but there’s a growing body of research showing the benefit of psychedelics in treating a variety of mental disorders. AFAIK the big ones are psilocybin (magic mushrooms) and, as the article mentions, ketamine. So it’s generally good that more people are getting access to that kind of therapy

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      Being against psychedelic therapy is as anti-science of a position as climate change denial

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        They say to be careful about that because the trauma of a bad trip can induce psychosis, but psychedelic use overall (when adjusted for other drug use) is associated with similar or better general mental health compared to non-users, so I’m not too surprised honestly.