Voting Biden in and making sure you’re involved in the democratic party’s next race for a nominee seems to be a better option then having Trump get back in power, no?
No, they’re both the same and anyone who disputes this is clearly just a neolib. Minorities who fear a second Trump regime need to just Get Over It. /s
It was a shame he didn’t get more and it would be interesting to see if America would have voted in a self-described socialist after all the years spent poisoning that well.
She 100% did. I share your sentiment. He did amazing still. And honestly I think he’s done better with the power he got in the Senate after running. Than he ever would have been able to do in the office of the president with both Democrats and Republicans against him.
Explicitly not voting for Biden is my involvement in the democratic party’s next primary (along with voting in that primary, obviously). I’m established as a known quantity who goes to the polls reliably and it is very easy for Democrats to get my vote generally.
I’ll even vote for the “lesser of two evils”. The only catch is I will vote against any politician who supports genocide and takes AIPAC money. In a general or a primary, doesn’t really matter. I’ll submit a blank ballot if nothing else.
Not too complicated, right? If democrats just don’t field zionist candidates who support genocide, everyone wins. Easy peasy.
Explicitly not voting for Biden is my involvement in the democratic party’s next primary (along with voting in that primary, obviously)
Biden isn’t going to be in the Democratic Party’s next primary.
Not too complicated, right? If democrats just don’t field zionist candidates who support genocide, everyone wins. Easy peasy.
Except for all the minorities who will be killed or tormented under a Trump regime, and the massive amount of damage that a Trump regime will cause to non-minorities. They don’t win. But you feel good about yourself for a little while, so fuck all those people, right? 😊
Black Women voters are among the groups where Biden support is dropping fastest compared to last election, but continue to speak over them to use ‘minorities’ as a talking point.
Black Women voters are among the groups where Biden support is dropping fastest compared to last election, but continue to speak over them to use ‘minorities’ as a talking point.
Would you like to tell me what the top issue of choice is for most Black voters?
I’ll give you a hint - the foreign policy issue you’re proposing a handover to fascism over doesn’t even come close.
Continue to tell them whats best for them though, a winning strategy if I ever hear one lmfao. “THE ECONOMY IS FINE AND YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CHOICE WHY DO THEY KEEP RUINNING?” Also I’d like to know where you got the idea im handing the country over to anyone by telling you that Bidens losing the supporters you claim to care about. Can’t wait until users like you disappear after the election.
Biden is representative of the Democratic establishment. He’s the chosen one they forced through in the primary. It’s not about him as an individual, it’s the political regime he represents within the party. Biden, like Trump, is just a symptom.
It’s not about Trump, it’s about what Democrats are demanding I put my name to.
Won’t do it. There’s literally no combination of words or sounds you can make that will make me vote for a pro-genocide candidate.
Whether Trump wins or not depends entirely on how well Democrats can get the vote out, that’s their responsibility. I offer my vote with that one simple condition, not hard to get.
You have a binary choice, Biden or Trump for this election.
What you do with your vote is your choice of course but if you help Trump and the GOP get back in power are you going to accept your responsibility in everything that it entails?
I’ll even vote for the “lesser of two evils”. The only catch is I will vote against any politician who supports genocide and takes AIPAC money.
“I’ll vote for the lesser of two evils except for this one important issue that I’ll just let the greater evil prevail on so I can feel morally superior to the lesser evil.”
I’m flexible on a lot of issues, genocide is non-negoiable for me though. There is no degree by which I will support it and no cause that makes it worthy. I can’t be threatened, shamed or semantically maneuvered into supporting it. That’s what you guys have got to work with here.
But again, it’s very easy to not support genocide, and it’s cheap! So it’s not some impossible line in the sand. If Democrats want my vote that’s literally all it takes at this point, stuff like functioning healthcare, bodily autonomy, fair wages, campaign finance reform etc. I’ve given up on ever realistically seeing that stuff, so corporate Dems are already getting a lot out of the deal here, but it’s entirely on them to compromise on the genocide thing.
Well your taxes support genocide so the least you could do is vote to mitigate the damage you pay for. But I know feeling morally superior is more important than pragmatic decisions that actually spare lives.
I can’t be threatened, shamed or semantically maneuvered into supporting it.
You’re literally supporting genocide by your acquiescence to a Trump regime, but I guess if there’s MORE genocide it doesn’t count, like a stack overflow. Thanks for sending American minorities to be murdered, we’re real grateful to your moral purity.
This is the trolley problem. “Voting for Biden” is pulling the switch to divert the trolley onto the track which kills one person instead of five (although there may be disagreement on how many people are tied to each track).
I totally get the “I didn’t fucking ask for this choice to be put in front of me, so I’m not playing at all” outlook, but the fact is that the choice is there, and doing nothing is a choice.
Voting Biden in and making sure you’re involved in the democratic party’s next race for a nominee seems to be a better option then having Trump get back in power, no?
Yeah we just need to vote for Joe Biden
No, they’re both the same and anyone who disputes this is clearly just a neolib. Minorities who fear a second Trump regime need to just Get Over It. /s
Ah, like when they nominated the very popular candidate Bernie Sanders who went on to beat Donald Trump.
Didn’t Hillary get more votes then Bernie?
It was a shame he didn’t get more and it would be interesting to see if America would have voted in a self-described socialist after all the years spent poisoning that well.
She 100% did. I share your sentiment. He did amazing still. And honestly I think he’s done better with the power he got in the Senate after running. Than he ever would have been able to do in the office of the president with both Democrats and Republicans against him.
That is an amazingly well thought out and perfectly constructed argument.
I think I’ll vote for Trump now, thank you very much.
Hexbear is leaking.
Average hexbear.
Explicitly not voting for Biden is my involvement in the democratic party’s next primary (along with voting in that primary, obviously). I’m established as a known quantity who goes to the polls reliably and it is very easy for Democrats to get my vote generally.
I’ll even vote for the “lesser of two evils”. The only catch is I will vote against any politician who supports genocide and takes AIPAC money. In a general or a primary, doesn’t really matter. I’ll submit a blank ballot if nothing else.
Not too complicated, right? If democrats just don’t field zionist candidates who support genocide, everyone wins. Easy peasy.
Biden isn’t going to be in the Democratic Party’s next primary.
Except for all the minorities who will be killed or tormented under a Trump regime, and the massive amount of damage that a Trump regime will cause to non-minorities. They don’t win. But you feel good about yourself for a little while, so fuck all those people, right? 😊
Black Women voters are among the groups where Biden support is dropping fastest compared to last election, but continue to speak over them to use ‘minorities’ as a talking point.
Would you like to tell me what the top issue of choice is for most Black voters?
I’ll give you a hint - the foreign policy issue you’re proposing a handover to fascism over doesn’t even come close.
Continue to tell them whats best for them though, a winning strategy if I ever hear one lmfao. “THE ECONOMY IS FINE AND YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CHOICE WHY DO THEY KEEP RUINNING?” Also I’d like to know where you got the idea im handing the country over to anyone by telling you that Bidens losing the supporters you claim to care about. Can’t wait until users like you disappear after the election.
Biden won’t be in the next primary, so how is not voting for him in the general doing anything but showing support for Trump and his policies?
Biden is representative of the Democratic establishment. He’s the chosen one they forced through in the primary. It’s not about him as an individual, it’s the political regime he represents within the party. Biden, like Trump, is just a symptom.
It’s like a paper cut vs a massive heart attack.
Nope, genocide is genocide as far as I’m concerned.
Cool, the millions of additional victims you’re condoning thank you for your pseudoreligious deontological outlook on life.
Will Trump be better for Gaza?
I know he won’t be for Ukraine, that women’s reproductive rights will continue to be limited and the war on queer and trans people will accelerate.
Is that worth it to you?
It’s not about Trump, it’s about what Democrats are demanding I put my name to.
Won’t do it. There’s literally no combination of words or sounds you can make that will make me vote for a pro-genocide candidate.
Whether Trump wins or not depends entirely on how well Democrats can get the vote out, that’s their responsibility. I offer my vote with that one simple condition, not hard to get.
Cool- I’ll just make a personal note that /u/retrospectology is pro-more-genocide because he refuses to vote for the pro-less-genocide candidate.
You have a binary choice, Biden or Trump for this election.
What you do with your vote is your choice of course but if you help Trump and the GOP get back in power are you going to accept your responsibility in everything that it entails?
“I’ll vote for the lesser of two evils except for this one important issue that I’ll just let the greater evil prevail on so I can feel morally superior to the lesser evil.”
I’m flexible on a lot of issues, genocide is non-negoiable for me though. There is no degree by which I will support it and no cause that makes it worthy. I can’t be threatened, shamed or semantically maneuvered into supporting it. That’s what you guys have got to work with here.
But again, it’s very easy to not support genocide, and it’s cheap! So it’s not some impossible line in the sand. If Democrats want my vote that’s literally all it takes at this point, stuff like functioning healthcare, bodily autonomy, fair wages, campaign finance reform etc. I’ve given up on ever realistically seeing that stuff, so corporate Dems are already getting a lot out of the deal here, but it’s entirely on them to compromise on the genocide thing.
Can’t support it ¯\ (ツ)_/¯
Well your taxes support genocide so the least you could do is vote to mitigate the damage you pay for. But I know feeling morally superior is more important than pragmatic decisions that actually spare lives.
You’re literally supporting genocide by your acquiescence to a Trump regime, but I guess if there’s MORE genocide it doesn’t count, like a stack overflow. Thanks for sending American minorities to be murdered, we’re real grateful to your moral purity.
May I shift gears here for a moment?
This is the trolley problem. “Voting for Biden” is pulling the switch to divert the trolley onto the track which kills one person instead of five (although there may be disagreement on how many people are tied to each track).
I totally get the “I didn’t fucking ask for this choice to be put in front of me, so I’m not playing at all” outlook, but the fact is that the choice is there, and doing nothing is a choice.
nobody tell him the engineer on board has time to hit the breaks
Oh, cool, so if he doesn’t do that, fuck those other four people, right? You have no obligation to do anything except watch them die.
“Biden has no obligation to hit the breaks because genocide is too popular”
Them’s the brakes.