• PugJesus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      1 month ago

      “Most Americans don’t pay close attention to foreign affairs and some 50 years of steady pro-Israel propaganda funded by the Israeli state has entrenched views to the point where the past ~20 years of intensified genocide barely raised a blink in the general population; the current propagandized pro-Israel depiction of the genocide, relying on the atrocities of October 7th, still holds sway in a large percentage of the electorate, as well as the notion of Israel as the ‘only democracy in the Middle East’.”

      Would you like me to chew that sentence up and spit it in your mouth, or is that simplified enough for you to understand as-is?

      • archomrade [he/him]OP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        15
        ·
        1 month ago

        Imagine having so much contempt for the average democratic voter that you think they literally wouldn’t understand what a genocide looks like if you showed it to them.

        • PugJesus@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          15
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          1 month ago

          Imagine having so much contempt for the average democratic voter that you think they literally wouldn’t understand what a genocide looks like if you showed it to them.

          Oh, okay, so the overwhelming support for Israel’s genocide these past 20+ years is just, what?

          Please, tell me what the previous support for Israel’s genocide was. I’m interested in hearing what exactly you think it was, if not looking at a genocide and not recognizing it.

          • archomrade [he/him]OP
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            9
            arrow-down
            13
            ·
            1 month ago

            Oh, okay, so the overwhelming support for Israel’s genocide these past 20+ years is just, what?

            Bi-partisan American propaganda.

            • PugJesus@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              11
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              1 month ago

              Bi-partisan American propaganda.

              So… the electorate looked at a genocide and didn’t recognize it for what it is. Great, glad you agree. Or is it “Imagine having so much contempt for the average democratic voter that you think they literally wouldn’t understand what a genocide looks like if you showed it to them.”?

              Oh, as a reminder, this is the statement of mine you initially accused me of having contempt for democratic voters with; please spot the difference between your claims of propaganda and mine:

              “Most Americans don’t pay close attention to foreign affairs and some 50 years of steady pro-Israel propaganda funded by the Israeli state has entrenched views to the point where the past ~20 years of intensified genocide barely raised a blink in the general population; the current propagandized pro-Israel depiction of the genocide, relying on the atrocities of October 7th, still holds sway in a large percentage of the electorate, as well as the notion of Israel as the ‘only democracy in the Middle East’.”

              • archomrade [he/him]OP
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                6
                arrow-down
                10
                ·
                1 month ago

                the electorate looked at a genocide

                So, you think democratic politicians have been showing the electorate a genocide? You think they’ve been making any case for it?

                • PugJesus@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  11
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  So, you think democratic politicians have been showing the electorate a genocide? You think they’ve been making any case for it?

                  Ah, I see, you only believe that the electorate can see what their candidates show them. Very interesting and aristocratic outlook on how democracy is supposed to function. I guess we must have just been blessed with magic eyes, or something.

                  • archomrade [he/him]OP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    6
                    arrow-down
                    10
                    ·
                    1 month ago

                    Do you really not think politicians have any power to present evidence to support their positions?

                • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  The electorate were starting to be shown it, but not by politicians.

                  Which is why Congress unified and moved so quickly on TikTok.