• Argongas@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    One of the reasons this election is so critical is the Supreme Court. If Trump wins, Alito and Thomas likely step down and two new, younger, likely even more conservatives get appointed, leaving Trump with 5 appointees who will fuck us for decades.

    We have to keep that from happening. We need Biden to hold the fort if nothing else. Hopefully, it will become quite evident that this court is corrupt AF, and there will be real momentum for reforms and/or impeachment of Alito and/or Thomas. We’ll need Dem senators to actually start pushing for this and probably start pushing for increasing the Senate with DC, Puerto Rico, and Samoa statehood.

    But people gotta suck it up and support Biden, while at the same time getting involved at the state level.

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      I think you need a 2/3 majority in the senate to impeach a scotus judge. There is no reality where that happens. Absolutely zero chance. Thomas could eat a baby and this GOP would cover for him.

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        Impeachment is the accusation and happens in the House. They draft “Articles of Impeachment” and pass them like any other bill, with a majority vote.

        The Senate then holds a trial while the House provides a prosecutor of those charges. The Senate acts as a jury and, to convict, requires a “2/3rd majority of those present”

        Trump, for example was impeached twice, successfully. The Senate failed to convict both times.

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          Correct, that is the full process. Even if the Senate is unlikely to convict, that doesn’t mean the house shouldn’t Impeach. It elevates the issue, brings attention to it, can dig up more information, and at least shows that some measure of accountability is being sought.

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        6 months ago

        I think with more state level work, Dems could start flipping more Senate seats. AZ and Georgia are recent examples. But it needs to be a 50 state strategy, and too often people just see a red state and throw up their hands as if there’s no way that can change.

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          I like your optimism, but there’s no way in hell we’re flipping 16 senators if Jan 6th didn’t even stop the GOP from gaining seats in congress.

          On Jan 6th, I thought that we were finally going to get the GOP to collapse and rebuild from scratch. We literally had congressmen narrowly escape a linching from a violent mob literally smearing shit on the walls of one of our highest institutions.

          And the GOP just steamed along like nothing happened. And are still getting elected to office. And expelled the few Republicans that spoke up. And their base love them for it.

          So no, there’s no path to removing these overtly corrupt SCOTUS judges. Zero. The best we can hope for is Dems getting the majority in congress and achieving a meaningless impeachment that’s nothing but show.

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      at the same time getting involved at the state level.

      Getting good candidates started at local and state levels is the key to changing the system. Problem is that most working people have neither the time nor financial resources to pursue this while the wealthy have the money and can buy those resources. This is how the GOP pushed the teabaggers into high offices.

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      6 months ago

      “It will become quite evident”

      It seems you are not paying attention…

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        Maybe a better way to say it is obvious enough for people not paying close attention to have no doubt about the corruption, and as a result Court reform becomes a mainstream issue that moderate Dems get behind.