• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Supporting Joe Biden means you support Israels actions in Palestine.

      Literally the only leverage you have in this system is your vote. If you give it freely without strings, this is what you get.

      In 2020, Biden had to come get Bernie supporters; the progressive vote. The result was the singularly most progressive campaign a Democratic nominee has ever had and subsequently the most progressive president (in terms of policy) that we’ve seen since Jimmy Carter: Biden did not get there on his own. He was dragged there because 2016 showed you can-not get elected as a Democrat without the support of progressives. Its quite simple: you can’t influence a candidate if you don’t withhold your consent. Team blue-no-matter consents to the extermination of the Palestinian people.

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        Yep completely agree he’s jumped the shark here. As a non-jewish American I don’t get the whatever it takes support.

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        You act like there’s a real choice that doesn’t involve the extermination of the Palestinian people. Trump or Biden, and both of them are bad on this, but Trump is a hell of a lot worse on everything else, and you might not even get a vote in 2028 if he wins.

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            Nah, I just have a wider worldview and a better understanding of political power than you do. The US has always turned a blind eye to genocide, and has no issues committing it without remorse. You don’t fix that by withholding your vote, and to think otherwise means you don’t really get how this whole voting thing works lol

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    4 months ago

    You know, if the GOP candidate was literally anyone but Trump, they’d probably be running away with this election. Heck, I’d be voting for them.

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      Bush got a million Iraqis killed in what only technically wasn’t genocide because we convinced them to kill each other, per standard colonial policy.

      There are so many blatantly evil and bigoted acts committed and supported by the GOP since fucking FDR was in office that voting for any of their candidates makes you, at best, a massive fucking moron with the memory of a goldfish.

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    4 months ago

    Let’s wait some more before closing the barn door - the cows haven’t even reached the far end of the field yet!