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    Biden has no chance, his rapidly progressing dementia will make him unelectable. Frankly, I cannot believe dems will let him run again.

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      As much as people like you claim it, there’s no actual evidence that Biden has dementia. And Trump is only three years younger than him if it’s just about age.

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        There’s no “proof” but you can see from his public speeches that he’s losing it. Trump at least shows mental clarity although he’s quite old as well.

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          Yeah, I hate to break this to ya, but if you’ve “seen” Biden’s public speeches from twenty years ago, you’d see he still had a speech impediment - one he’s had his entire life and spent a lot of work to control. As someone else who has trouble speaking in public, props to him for rising above it.

          And the sad part? People are literally mocking his speech impediment to make it seem like he has dementia when they know the truth - that’s like making fun of someone for being stuck in a wheelchair. But once again, it shows the class of the people we’re dealing with.

          https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/politics/joe-biden-stutter/index.html

          But let me guess, mocking an orange clown for the makeup they choose to smear on daily would be considered “crossing the line” to you, right?

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            It’s not a speech impediment, it’s him clearly forgetting the most basic things. Often he can’t even read from the teleprompter properly, gets lost in public venues, keeps tripping over. I feel sorry for him, it’s elder abuse what he’s going through.
            And I’ve got news for you, Biden is smearing the same orange paint on himself as Trump is, it’s what they do to look less gray and old.
            “The orange man is back”
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4VHLKmstPI

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            You can see in his eyes that he knows where he is, what he’s being asked, and is thinking up a bullshit answer. No signs of dementia whatsoever.

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        Trump just doesn’t seem like he has dimentia because his memory and intelligence has always been horrible, though his speech patterns and word selection are what we’d use to convince anyone we cared about they should at minimum be in some kind of special care

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      Umbra

      Biden has no chance, his rapidly progressing dementia will make him unelectable. Frankly, I cannot believe dems will let him run again.

      Can’t tell if sarcasm or troll… That’s how insane Republicans are now lol.

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          What actually happens is he can speak clearly and confidently on issues for half an hour or an hour straight in front of cameras, and he makes one or two stumbles, and Fox etc never show the normal part, but jerk off about the errors endlessly. Listening to Biden talk shows no evidence he has dementia. The claims like “he doesn’t even know what room he’s in!!” are just stupid, and it’s fairly insane considering the former republican president is one of the stupidest, most insanely rambling people ever to hold public office.

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        Dude is all over the comments here spamming nonsense because they think the right wing morons they listen to are telling the truth with all their culture war rage bait they spew.

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    Do you think Trump will stay in if poll after poll continues to show him losing?

    I get that he NEEDS to win if he wants to avoid prison, but can his fragile ego take losing again? He couldn’t handle losing the popular vote in 2016 and he WON that election. 2020 showed how internalized he takes being a two time loser.

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      Yes he’ll stay in and yes he’ll call it rigged and yes he’ll do everything he can to subvert the results if he loses. Watch for trump supporters at the state and county levels, they will 100% try to refuse certification if the results do show him losing.

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    Literally no polls matter outside of election season, people lie to them, often for protest or primary reasons. Plenty of fascists want desantis because he’s a much bigger monster.

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      I’m just assuming Trump will win at this point, psychologically prepare myself for the absolute worst outcome currently plausible

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    A reminder that these polls assume people who support Biden are actually going to get out and vote for him.

    Everyone should make sure they are registered to vote and then actually vote.

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      Believing is one thing. Anyone who changes their behavior because of polls, I wanna meet this fucking idiot and find out what’s going on in that dumb brain

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      The 2016 polls were not inaccurate though. They said Trump had a small chance at victory, and he pulled it off. They never said it was impossible, they just said smart money was on Hillary.

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        The national polling was also pretty accurate, it was the state polling that missed. Trump squeezed out wins in 4 states by a combined total of 50,000 votes. Nationally though the numbers were within their prediction.

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        Ya, if I remember right FiveThirtyEight had Trump at around 30% chance in 2016, so slightly unlikely but not exactly a crazy longshot.

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          They were one of the few that gave him that large of a margin, iirc. The rest were in the 90’s for Hillary.

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    While I’m happy to hear it, any political article calling something brutal or savage or claiming one destroys another is clearly a piece of clickbait garbage.

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    Seems like Manchin would be a spoiler candidate for Republicans more than Democrats. He might pull off some ‘conservatives’ that would rather die than vote for the ‘democrat party’ but also can’t stomach Trump. But I’m not seeing how a potential Biden vote decides Manchin in the better option.

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      If he’s actually serious about this I can’t believe how anyone could possibly believe he is actually a democrat… It’s like every single thing he does helps Republicans and the parasite donor class. I feel like all I ever read is “Manchin shoots down Democrats attempt to xyz” constantly… Hell even your comment shows how conservatives like him more than liberals. In my mind he’s always been a selfish spoiler.

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    I mistrust polls. Is this a legitimate poll or is this propaganda aimed at Biden voters? The message is that you don’t have to bother voting because your choice is leading the poll. Vote anyway.

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    Literally nobody wants conservative garbage in office. The party of liars and frauds always defanging enforcement of laws and regulations and everyone knows because we have been talking about it since that Liar War George WMD Bush and housing crash that he did.

    Every chance we had at reigning in the psychopathic elites was thwarted by the Conservatives ONLY.

    The white dudes sold half of my generation to a liar war and the other half to crippling debt. So we voted in a black man and they revolted by selling out to foreign enemies to steal an election because they got caught stealing 2000 with the Brooks Brothers Riot.

    The party of garbage is being taken out and the midterms show it. Polls are garbage and we don’t answer them because we want them to look like assholes like we did during the mid terms AND 2024.

    What’s their plan? Ruin our lines of communication from now until 2024 by buying and destroying media in a way that looks like incompetence.

    They might go and get crazy and attack the country again OR start pretending they’re Democrats - they already do.

    Look at Ron ShitSandwich. Total incompetent shit bag. And he’s only 44. Plenty of time to get worse.

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        The only reason conservatives win anything is because of lines on a fucking map. No one likes that shit

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          Both parties are gerrymandering as much as they can get away with. If you meant the electoral college that’s part of being a federation of states, sorry. Changing the rules to benefit your team is not exactly fair either, right?

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            One party wants to directly fuck with your life removing things people have found a need for, the other is slow. Pick your poison I guess.

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            Fuck the teams. What’s my team? I’m an independent. I’ve never once been registered in a party in my decades of voting. Knock off the team bullshit. It’s how idiots think

            It would be nice if 40-45% of the country didn’t try to force the other 60% to live by their rules.

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              Would be nice if the majority doesn’t force the minority to live by their rules either.

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                So instead you allow a crazy ass minority most people don’t agree with to do the same thing. How convenient for you.

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              Lol you’re only an independent because it inflates your ego. You actually think you’re smarter than everyone else. You even say as much. It has fuck all to do with your political views or any desire to make the country a better place.

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                I’m an independent because I will vote for whoever makes sense. I never vote party line and I never vote for only one party consistently. If I’m calling people stupid it’s because they think aligning with a party no matter what makes sense. It doesn’t. It’s rigid and ignorant. So yeah, I’m smarter than people like that

                Just lately, republicans have become so toxic and stupid, I wouldn’t dare vote that way. It’s objectively terrible

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                And for that to happen we need the current gatekeepers to allow the change. There’s no incentive for them to ever do what voters want or need

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            No, that’s a straight up lie. Multiple blue states have independent commissions that draw the maps, meanwhile red states refuse to allow even that.

            I’m sick of fascists trying to gaslight people into believing that everyone is the same as they are. You’re a blatant liar.

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            If the number of electors was distributed in a way that didn’t give disproportional representation to states with very small populations, that would be great. Also, the notion that the US is truly a federation of independent states hasn’t been accurate for at least 200 years.

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              It’s a bit disproportional for a few states but then again, you can say the votes of people in Wyoming are worth more relatively speaking but it’s still just 3 electors in the end. No one will pay much attention to them either way, unlike the more populous states which can swing elections.

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                unlike the more populous states which can swing elections.

                You say that like it’s a bad thing for people to be in charge rather than arbitrary lines drawn on maps.

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                  I’m saying they don’t matter with their 3 votes, I don’t think the people there feel very important in deciding the presidential election.

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                It is not just Wyoming, but many states. States like Wyoming and North Dakota get 2-3 times the votes per population as states like California, Florida or Illinois. For states such as New Mexico and Arkansas, the ratio is more like 1.5 times the more populous states. It just doesn’t make sense according to how the system is supposed to work.

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            Some people’s vote being worth more is not exactly fair. Having equal representation isn’t changing the rules to be in favor of one side, unless you count democracy as a “side”.

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        That’s low, but still 25% still high.

        Remember that most people thought Trump had no chance in 2016 also. So even if he only has a 25% chance of winning, act as though he’s got a 50% chance and you’re the deciding vote.

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          I legit thought the “powers that be” would realize how dangerous trump is and wouldn’t allow it. That’s the day I fully realized there truly is no Illuminati, no conspiracy, no dark shadow group in control, nobody in charge.

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      Almost every poll at the time showed that everyone could beat Trump except for Hillary. The DNC is as responsible for the Trump presidency as the RNC.