CHICAGO—Eradicating any sense of respectability and gentlemanliness he thought he possessed during the long winter months, local man Brendan Watt was reminded Thursday by the return of more revealing spring attire that he is nothing more than a vulgar, hormonal ogre who has to actively keep his thoughts and gaze in check whenever he goes out in public, the disheartened 33-year-old confirmed to reporters. “God,” Watt reportedly said to himself while walking to work amid a variety of women wearing skirts and light strapless garments, as he arrived at the annual realization that he is, despite his best hopes, a chemically driven beast who must mentally tell himself he doesn’t need to take another glance at women who pass by in tank tops and yoga pants. “And there’s still five more months of this, for Christ’s sake.” At press time, Watt had just caught himself taking a second look at a girl who—Jesus—was a good 15 years younger than him, and was sadly accepting that this is just who he is.

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    Eh. As somebody who’s able to compare hornyness pre and post HRT, yes, testosterone has some pretty strong effects down there, but i really struggle with the biologist interpretation that the absolute awfulness of guys suffering from awooga syndrome is a hormonal problem. When you discard any and all belonging to a masculine gender role at a different time than going on HRT, when you date a pre-HRT, but socially and psychologically completely transitioned trans woman for a while, this becomes very obvious. Biodeterminism is a deeply flawed idea that is missing the central point and conflates a hormonal “it’s so much easier to get a boner on this stuff” with a learned “i need to objectify and partition women to find them sexually desirable”. The violence found in our society’s standard male sexual behavior isn’t organic in nature, it is performative, it is behavioral, it is trained and enforced and policed. This is good news, actually, because it means it is not inherent to being a man, or to being on T, it is inherent to a certain way of doing masculinity and of seeing women that we can denormalize and phase out if we [REDACTED]which would be good training to later perform DIY orchi[IN MINECRAFT]ew Tate in a pit full of hungry baboons.

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      This doesn’t sound like awooga syndrome though, nor does it seem to be about men being biologically destined to be creeps. It’s just one person beating themselves up for having involuntary sexual desire, which in this case I believe the hormonal bit is just referring to the horny chemicals in our brain (which are often conflated with/associated with hormones). Is realizing you’re looking at someone again who you thought was attractive but stopping yourself when you realize it awooga syndrome?

      I don’t know anything, I’m autistic. You’re going to have to spell out exactly what is and isn’t acceptable or moral (please do I am so confused about everything all the time)

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        I’m genuinely sorry but i’m NOT gonna sift through a fuckton of accumulated trauma that me and literally 99% of the women, fems and pre-transition AFAB trans people i know have suffered due to men being horny as fuck and lay it out to you in clear terms. I’m not saying this to put you down or berate you, i’m just explaining why i can’t do that thing you’re asking for. It’s just too much both emotionally and effort wise. The constant objectification that anyone who’s read as female goes through doesn’t fit in one neatly condensed post and spelling out exactly what is and isn’t acceptable in this regard in any and all situations is plainly impossible. Let’s just say that going out there as a girl is scary as hell way too often. To put this in perspective, i get at least one “that guy scared the shit out of me” story every day (i just read another one before coming to hexbear). And men tend to be completely oblivious to this because women* are used to them not taking our experiences seriously anyways, so we share this stuff mostly among ourselves. But it’s omnipresent.

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          i’m not saying testosterone is the causative agent for all cis male malfeasance but I am saying it is The Horny Hormone and what makes dudes look at idk a fucking tree and be like “you know what… 😳” yes it’s like patriarchal shit culture that translates that into “i can do whatever I want with women’s bodies” or whatever and influences what people ultimately do with that feeling, but that feeling (the big horny) itself is absolutely biologically driven

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            well, it’s not the only horny hormone, as evidenced by the fact that those with primarily estrogen in their bodies and not testosterone still end up horny a lot. “Women no want sex, men want sex too much” is common oppositional sexist rhetoric.

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    They have a rule, in writing, at the university campuses around here. 2.5 seconds is the limit for looking at people before it becomes harassment (it was explained to us as looking at girls but I don’t know if that’s the language in the rule)

    I’m assuming the rule applies to contractors mainly but I was pretty disappointed that it had to be written down in the first place.

    My hormones tell me to look at the butt, however my brain is capable of thinking about how the person in possession of the butt may not appreciate being gawked at.

    Men are the worst lol

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    EDIT: Redacted comment because it gives the impression that any sort of staring is acceptable or impossible to prevent. This is not true of course, someone can just not stare at others in a creepy way. I think men in general, and possibly even women who are looking in a sexual way, should simply not at all, and if you find yourself doing it on accident a lot you should probably avoid looking at others you’re attracted to in general, at least until you can change it and just be normal and not look at them any more than any other person.

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    Honestly have a hard time correctly identifying the shame that I shouldn’t feel and the shame that I should feel regarding this stuff.