While I understand the lack of proper open source alternatives for some software like AutoCAD and After Effects, it always felt weird that the best IDEs/Text Editors are made by big corporations, because you know, these are the tools programmers use.

I tried vim/neovim, which I enjoy using, but I’ve come to prefer visual editors instead of text based. Kate looks promising, and I’m willing to contribute to it in my free time, but it just has that “amateurish” feel to it that I can’t explain.

Anyone aware of other alternatives?

    • Simon Weiss@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 years ago

      This + package to enable VSCode marketplace. The only VSCode features it lacks afaik are out of the box settings sync and remote container development, which colud be substituted with plugins.

      EDIT: also be sure to check out Lapce suggested by Yote.zip - it’s a banger.

    • sprl@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      Any idea how well vscodium runs on macos? Is the performance worde than normal vscode?

      • lenathaw@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I use Codium on both PopOS and MacOSi, it’s a bit slow to start, but performance is good, but I don’t know how it compares to stock VSCode since I never tested it. But overall I’m very happy with it.

  • ed_cock@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    If you program in Python check out Spyder, some other languages also have specialized IDEs that can be really good.

  • monobot@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 years ago

    People are writing different opinions, but you are right, best IDEs are comercial software.

    I think it is just because it takes a lot of time and effort on boring stuff to make this tools smooth. Generally in open source we work on fun parts and leave those boring last 20% unfinished, which is ok with me.l

  • nrbray@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I am on the path VSCodium --> Lapce under NixOS for visual editors and to decorporate my workflow. i.e. away from VSCode which is [otherwise] exceptional.

    However, Helix looks incredible.

    • MarcellusDrum@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I am aware of this one, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think I’ll start using Kate, and contribute whatever features I’m missing if I can.

    • Marxine@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 years ago

      How does it compare to similar stuff like AstroNvim, SpaceVim, NVChad, etc? I’m trying to choose one but having difficulties 😥

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I find it significantly better than SpaceVim as they’re not relying on EOL’d packages and customization is a bit easier. Defaults are pretty sane and most needed plugins are quick to setup.

        • Marxine@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 years ago

          Thank you, gonna give it a try! Since I’m new to nvim it would feel good to still have that “semi IDE” feeling, but the ammount of options felt overwhelming 😅

          • g7s@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            2 years ago

            I think you are doing nothing wrong with choosing Lunarvim. Anyway, If you ever are unhappy with it, you can pretty much just create your own neovim config.

      • g7s@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 years ago

        It’s got a pretty good community, you always find some help online. It comes per default only with “needed” plugins, which makes it a pretty nice IDE already. If you ever need more plugins, it’s also not complicated to install them,

        • Marxine@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 years ago

          Good community is always a plus for any project. Thanks for the recommendation!

    • Simon Weiss@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Actually a pretty good on-the-go alternative to GUI IDEs. Always using it to quickly edit configs and scripts.

  • perivesta@feddit.deEnglish
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    2 years ago

    If you like Kate you can try Kdevelop. It’s the same editor base but a bit more IDE like

  • Marxine@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I alternate between VCCodium and Kate, both are fine to me, but Kate feels snappier since I’m on KDE. It’s also less of a resource drain.

    • Mot@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I frequently use Kate as a backup as well. Do you configure it in anyway?

      • Marxine@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I like to remove the top menu and have the icons to the sidebar. Other than that, I activate a few plugins and keep it pretty vanilla. Most of the default configs are fine to me, and the command bar helps a lot.

    • MarcellusDrum@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I can’t manage to make Kate look half descent on Mint (Cinnamon). It does look great on Plasma

      • linuxisfun@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        That’s actually an issue with most Debian-/Ubuntu-based distributions, as Debian/Ubuntu still does not package QGnomePlatform. This is preinstalled on Fedora and makes Qt apps, like Kate, look nice on GNOME.

        If I remember correctly, Flatpak apps from Flathub are unaffected by this Debian/Ubuntu issue, as Flathub includes QGnomePlatform in their runtimes.

      • Marxine@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Ouch, I can imagine how it feels. I’ve always been a KDE user, but I’ve tried other DEs before Since I used lots of KDE stuff (Krita, Kate, KdenLive) I stuck with it.

  • TrivialBetaState@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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    2 years ago

    My first comment would be that free software made by a corporation is still free software. Like Eclipse, which was originally made by IBM and is a huge ecosystem, especially for “java and friends.” So, there is nothing wrong with VS Code(ium). It is a “proper” open source editor and a very good one (I don’t use it though - I prefer EMACS).

    As for community-base alternatives (which is probably what you mean), you could consider kdevelop or pulsar. There are other alternatives which are equally good and surely one of them will fit your purpose. You mentioned Kate and I can’t find anything wrong with it, especially once you start installing the plugins that are relevant to what you do. Same with Gedit.

    • NaoPb@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Thanks. I remember a while ago I was looking at Atom and Brackets. But I see both of those have been put down. At least the linux version has as far as the latter is concerned.

    • Daeraxa@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 years ago

      As one of the Pulsar team, thanks for the support! Always nice to see it being recommended on these kinds of threads.

      • maynarkh@feddit.nlEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Is there support for serving it out to a browser similar to vscode.dev? I’ve been looking into having something like that, and I didn’t find anything that was similar.

        • Daeraxa@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 years ago

          No, it would require an awful lot of development, there are quite a few native modules. For a browser ide i would check out phcode.dev which is a development of Adobe’s brackets editor.

      • kool_newt@lemm.eeEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Oh nice! I was super excited to find your project, was not about to let MS drive me into their arms and couldn’t find anything else that met my needs.

        Thanks for your work!

        • Daeraxa@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          2 years ago

          We are going through a bit of a rework for the website and docs site as a whole but yeah, I agree that we should have some.

      • kool_newt@lemm.eeEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I’ve used Atom for years and rarely had issues. Maybe a specific plugin was causing you a problem? Either way, I’d say give Pulsar a try if you like that type of interface.