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        I have some stupid questions from someone who rolls barehanded…

        1. How do you get the soap to lather well when using a wash cloth? I tried it once but it didn’t work all that well.

        2. Are you supposed to use a new washcloth every time you shower? If yes, how many washcloths do you go through a week and how much does this add to your laundry bulk. If no, aren’t you kind of grossed out by a used, wet, bacteria filled rag being rubbed all over you?

        I once saw a post from someone not understanding how bare handers could possibly get clean from only using their hands. But…it’s not like you use a washcloth when you wash your hands and no one is grossed out by that. Why are people then randomly grossed out when you apply that to showering? The action of soap with mechanical disruption, be it with your bare hands or a washcloth, does well to remove grime and bacteria.

        To the OP, I lather in my hands with a bar of soap and then wash my body with my sudsy hands…going back to the bar of soap and even “washing my hands” often enough when necessary.

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          I use an exfoliating washcloth like this. It lathers really well. Scrubs off the dead skin and it’s long so you can scratch your back. It air dries fast.

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          How do you get the soap to lather well when using a wash cloth? I tried it once but it didn’t work all that well.

          It lathers better than soap/hands for me.

          Are you supposed to use a new washcloth every time you shower? If yes, how many washcloths do you go through a week and how much does this add to your laundry bulk.

          Not I. I change mine weekly. Even if I did daily, they’re tiny, so 7 would be about the same mass as a shirt.

          If no, aren’t you kind of grossed out by a used, wet, bacteria filled rag being rubbed all over you?

          Not anymore than rubbing a used, wet, bacteria filled bar of soap being rubbed all over you. Or used, wet, bacteria filled hands.

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        First time I heard of that. What is the advantage they have compared to just using your hands, besides the lathering abilities mentioned in one of the replies to this comment which is something I never had a problem with?

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      What? What kind of heathen doesn’t have a pair of heavy duty work gloves for showering? Am I the only civilized one among us?!

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      I imagine they mean without a cloth, poof, or loofa. As a kid I would put body wash in my hand, lather, and rub it over my body. But it tended to use up soap quickly so either I had to add more soap part way through or the things I washed last didn’t get washed well. Which is why I switched to a poof.

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        That’s the way all our great-grandparents did it. But with a bowl of warm water.

        Uses just a fraction of energy & water. With the abundance of cheap energy, affordable piping and heating became affordable for the masses.

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          I mean, I also use an actual shower for the rinsing and hair, I just use a washcloth instead of my bare hands or a bar for soaping everything up.

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            That’s what I thought, hence I mentioned the bowl of water. Which was heated with wood or coal which had to be carried manually… in buckets… Imagine that :-)

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      I use soap bar bags… I can’t figure out if that qualifies as barehanded or not

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      I actually wasn’t aware of soap bars before today. I only see those for hands, not the whole body. Reading these comments, I’m not sure if it’s more of a generational or cultural difference.

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      Liquid soap/body wash is a sham. It’s just the company selling you less soap by diluting it with water. Bars of soap are more economical.

      I’m old enough to remember when body wash was not the normal and now soap bars seem to be used less than body wash.

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    I haven’t used soap in the shower for at least five years. Only when cleaning hands, and I do use antiperspirant) I just scrub myself with my hands in the shower top to bottom. (I am bald tho).

    No one has ever mentioned me smelling bad, even my current co-workers who do say it if someone is smelling.

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        I had a long time of issues with my skin, and when I researched for causes I realised I was using too much soap. So I switched to soap every other day, once a week and eventually just dropped soap altogether when I found I didn’t really need it. Haven’t had any issues with my skin since.

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          You talking bar soap? Try body wash with a loofah. Stuff works great for my skin while bar soap dries the crap out of it or makes me itchy.

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      I love how people say this. Dude, other people will not tell you if you smell bad unless you ask fairly insistently. It’s awkward, and people would just rather ignore it than broach that awkwardness. Tell someone you work with and trust everything you have just written here, and see what they say. My bet is either you are “that smelly guy at the office” or “meh you smell kinda funky, but it’s not horrendous”. Either way: wash ya ayyssssss

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        My brother, I work in a kitchen. The people there do, (and have) told their fellow workers when they smell. Either when they don’t shower enough, or when they use too much deodorant.

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        Netflix’s Explained series actually does a deep dive into this on the “Your Skin” episode. Since watching the episode, I also do not use soap at all and use deodorant. The episode goes on to explain that body wash and body soap is not something doctor recommended or dermatologist recommended at all and not needed. In fact, the episode explains how soap might be doing more damage to certain skin types because it fucks with your microbiome and soap indiscriminately kills both the bad bacteria but also kills the good bacteria which typically eat the odor causing excrement from the bad bacteria on your skin. The only place recommended to wash with soap and water is your hands.

        I’m also not labeled stinky or smelly either, circa the coworkers, girlfriends (including current), and other people I know. I shower after I sweat or workout, and I shower every day with only water by using an abrasive cloth to remove my old skin. On my face I use a BHA, Bio Oil, and Lotion for my face routine after scrubbing to open my pours with hot water with a microfiber cloth.

        It’s what works for me and I don’t break out in acne or bumps or anything because my skin feels wonderfully balanced and healthy.

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      What kind of antiperspirant are you using that doesn’t require soap to remove it? They almost always have a residue that keeps them in place that doesn’t normally just wash off.

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        I have some that is for sensitive skin without any additives. I just scrub my armpits really well for a bit longer under running water.

        But now that you mention it, I got a new brand of antiperspirant recently that I’ve had issues with, so I might just need to use soap for that.

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    On the occasions where I need to use just a bar of soap to shower with, I usually build up a big lather on my stomach and/or chest then spread it outwards from there (relathering on my torso again if there isn’t enough initially.)

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    Gross, who uses bar soap in 2023? Shit just smells bad

    I lather and then spread it around though. My hands are clean because, y’know, it’s a shower and I’m using soap

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      Bar soap needs to be cleaned/washed after use or it can become dirty/micro-organisms can develop on it.

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        The thing is that it’s in the shower, though. So even if this is an issue, it is for sure going to get wet again before you use it. “Soap is self cleaning.” - Friends

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      There’s more bar soaps than ever. You can even get special hair shampoo and conditioner bars or shaving cream as a bar

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      Another bar soap user. And they don’t smell bad. Not sure what you’ve tried. Liquid body soap feels like it leaves a layer on my skin. Bar soap doesn’t do that.

      Btw, your liquid soap is more watered down than a bar of soap. And bars are less expensive.

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        Granted, different bar soaps will have different smells. Like any soap, there are multiple brands and multiple fragrances to choose from. I’m sure there is a gross smelling bar soap out there lol.

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      You know there is bar soap other than name brand stuff, right? Currently getting my bars from the local farmers market. Bergamot and whiskey barrel is one of the most euphoric things I’ve ever smelled

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      I’ve never heard anyone complain about the smell but I also don’t understand why anyone would use bar soap in this day and age. Do people just like having dried out oddly sticky skin?

      I honestly don’t get why you would even have body wash as a separate thing … shampoo is perfectly capable of washing everything.

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        What kind of soap do they sell where you are??? It sounds super gross and I’m not surprised you think it’s weird people use soap.

        But plenty of soap is nothing like that.

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        Gotta use the Dove original beauty bar, at the risk of sounding like a shill it’s seriously the only bar soap that doesn’t leave your skin feeling all weird and sticky

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          I have been using Dove for a long time now. Recently I have been thinking that it moisturizes too much. I wish I could find a bar soap that moisturizes like Dove but maybe half as much moisturizing.

          I’ve not yet gone down the interwebs rabbit hole to find it.

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            I’ve been really liking Aleppo Soap. 3 ingredients: olive oil, laurel oil, and lye. I find it moisturizes just enough, and doesn’t have that weird smell that Dove has.

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          I alternate between Dove and Caress both leave my skin nice and smooth; I’ll occasionally use a gel but they feel like they leave a layer so I don’t use them much.

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          I’ve found the same, although I’m sure other good ones exist. Just haven’t had a reason to try them.

          Used Duke Cannon for a while, liked them too but frankly I’d much rather pick up a pack of soap when I’m shopping than have to worry about ordering some online.

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              I see them here and there, and occasionally still pick them up when I do (love the fragrances), but unfortunately it’s usually at shops I don’t frequent or as a seasonal end cap.

              Edit: highly recommend their solid cologne too, nice scents and it lasts forever

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                  It’s great. I don’t use it too often, only really when I’m going out, but I’ve had the same container for 3 or 4 years now and it’s maybe half gone. Think it cost me maybe $30 shipped?

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        Bar soap is actually a lot better about moisturizing your body now than it used to be. It’s also a lot better for the environment and creates a significant less amount of plastic waste than liquid soap. And it tends to last longer than a bottle of liquid soap.

        I’m sure you could use shampoo to wash everything. But it does have different moisturizers and oils and additives then soap for your body does. And that can make a significant difference to some people

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          I buy bulk shower gel, in 5L containers and have used the same 1L gel pump for 3 years so far. Much less waste.

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              To be fair, I’m a bar soap user…and while the bars are individually wrapped in cardboard, there still is usually plastic overwrap around all of the cardboard boxes of bars.

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      Uh, I use bar soap and it doesn’t smell bad. There a loads of small, cottage soap makers who are making really great (and great smelling) soaps. I just prefer those over body wash or whatever.

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    I am a barehanded soap to shower poof convert. I moved to an area with a lot of heat and I can’t get all the oil off my body without friction. So I barehand soap on head, then load up the poof and then go like hell

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    Soap work with friction, so you are forced to use your hand to apply optimal on your skin and actually wash yourself.

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    …I’m supposed to wear gloves in the shower?