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    Bernie/AOC ticket 2024 plz

    Or 2028 if we still have elections then

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      AOC for president, Bernie for vice (cause ageist societal concerns).

      Or, Bernie as President, AOC as Prime Minister (using SCOTUS’ ruling to rewrite all laws and current established government).

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        Fucking Brilliant. Biden could just pull out the ol’ uno reverse right now.

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        Why would we have a PM? We already have the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader. And the PM wouldn’t be able to exercise any executive powers unless you burned the constitution, because separation of powers.

        There’s not really a good reason to adopt a parliamentary system like the UK’s for example if we were to completely reform the government imo. Or to have a PM separate from the president at all.

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      My god can we get a younger social Democrat please? Fuckin A I’m tired of people born before WW2 ended making all the policy decisions. I was going to say before the moon landing but they were all adults when that happened. They’re not even Boomers. They’re fucking older than boomers.

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            If those two ran on a presidential ticket together, the Republican Party would dial up the “it’ll be the end times if they win and only our lord and savior Trump can stop it” to 1000.

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          Most of America. But they aren’t becoming politicians. Mostly because politicians are really bad people for the most part. You get maybe 5 percent that don’t have ulterior motives.

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            5 percent is awfully generous. Maybe it’s that high for people that try to run, but the vast majority of people that win are sucking someone’s teet.

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        Who cares how old they are as long as they have the right positions on the issues and a sound mind? I love having people with some wisdom in there.

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          The problem is apparently having someone in office that will live long enough to actually reap what they sow. I didn’t used to think this would ever be a thing we’d have to be worried about, but, here we are. Environmental issues in particular hit this note I think.

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            Eh, people, especially the rich, will likely be living longer and longer. Also, only a total sociopath would not care about what their children and grandchildren, etc., have to face. Again, I think the important thing is competency and the policies they support (hopefully backed by evidence if they have a political past). Someone with a few years under their belt is also hopefully more likely to look at the longer span of things, given that they’ve ideally accrued some level of wisdom.

            If someone is 90 and still mentally fit, and socially aware like Bernie would be far more preferable than some spry spring chicken that adores the likes of Steve Miller. Again, I think age is just a number. There is nothing inherently good or bad about someone being young (some younger people seem to be old souls and have a lot more wisdom than the number of times they circled the sun) - or old. IMHO.

            I know this country has always worshiped youth, and that’s not fallen out of fashion just yet. I just happen to think that’s rather dumb.

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          You’ve never seen what dementia can do to a person. Or, just the general confusion that comes with age. I’m happy for you, honestly it sucks to watch. Someone who used to know everything suddenly gets confused on the way to a restaurant they’ve been to a thousand times. Forgets why they called, or even that they called you in the first place. And, importantly, have their opinions flip on a dime with no warning whatsoever.

          This isn’t necessarily dementia, it can be caused by any number of things, ailments that younger people would brush off without a thought.

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            This isn’t necessarily dementia

            It’s almost certainly not dementia. He’s definitely in mental decline, and that is more than sufficient to explain what we’ve seen.

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            You’ve never seen what dementia can do to a person.

            Believe me, I know all too well. I’ve had a few family members die from Alzheimer’s. Losing someone is never easy, but you lose that person long before they pass away and it’s heartbreaking.

            My point is that age is merely a number. There are people well above the age of Biden and have all their mental faculties.

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        Is it the age that bothers you or is it the cognitive decline/attitudes that typically come with age?

        I don’t know much about Bernie but it seems like he doesn’t have much of the latter

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          Honestly, the only problem I really have with Biden is superficial, and it’s mostly because most other people are superficial.

          This election can only be won by breaking apathy. That takes a confident and strong speaker. Apathetic voters don’t watch the news every day. They don’t know what Biden is up to. But debates are like the Superbowl of politics, and even is they don’t watch the whole game, they won’t be able to avoid the highlights.

          That performance did not inspire confidence. He was meek and paled next to Trump’s booming confident voice. Doesn’t matter that he was spewing shit, he sounded good doing it.

          Could you imagine Obama doing that? Or Bill Clinton? Hell no. Those guys were popular because they had confidence. They oozed it, but not at the point where they appear arrogant.

          Bidens strategy should have been to turn off his speaker whenever Trump talked and just guessing what he said and rebutting that. You can’t counter his every point, it takes far more work to dismantle a lie than it is to make one.

          I know Biden is smart, I know he’s a skilled politician and I know that he’s got a hell of a staff and cabinet. And ultimately that’s really the biggest criteria for an administration.

          I wouldn’t mind him tapping out and calling in a pitch hitter though. A stronger and more confident candidate, with Bidens endorsement, could take it. Bernie, but younger. Obama, but white (anything else is sadly a non-starter for too many purple states). Bill, but less pervy. That’s what will win the election.