The former president has always considered himself to be the ultimate disrupter. But this time, the disruption is on the other side.

Through the weekend, there were an awful lot of questions that were going back and forth from people in the president’s tightest circle, and one of the questions that kept being asked was whether Joe Biden was going to endorse Kamala Harris or not. And the question didn’t revolve around whether he wanted to or not, but whether people in her camp thought it would be better for her to fight for it, win it on her own, and not be seen as somebody who was tapped by President Biden and so, in her own way, have a fresh start going into the campaign.

So the timing seems to be about as good as it could have been to end what has just been one of the craziest two or three weeks in American politics in quite some time.

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    Can you blame him? Kamala was a District Attorney and an Attorney General. Even a competent opponent who based their arguments on facts would be intimidated.

    Trump wouldn’t stand a chance on that stage.

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      IDK, considering the MAGA crowd consider Trump lies better than facts, because everybody know by now, that facts have a liberal bias.

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        the fight is not for maga votes, it is for the undecided morons in the middle.

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          The fight is against the couch, idiot undecided voters are basically a coin toss. Getting 80%+ of your supporters to actually vote for you is all you really need.

          Nothing was more demoralizing than Biden in the last debate. Trump against someone under 60 could have the same thing happen to him.

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          The undecided will be gaslighted too. Are you really sugesting Trump would try to use reason to sway the undecided?
          Trump has only one mode, and that’s narcissistic pathological liar.

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            Are you really sugesting Trump would try to use reason to sway the undecided?

            no, i am suggesting that primary goal of democratic candidate is not to go after maga voters.

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              He needs to capture his base too, and make sure as many of them as possible will vote, without them the marginal voters are irrelevant.
              Trump will use stupid arguments and lies, and look like he is winning. That’s how he built the MAGA crowd, and that’s the system he will continue to use.
              The undecided he manages to convince to vote for him, will then be supporting MAGA by definition, even if they aren’t as batshit crazy as the hardcore MAGA supporters.

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            No, but a good and clear debater, like an experienced lawyer that she is, would blow him apart. Biden was an effective politician and debated pretty well, but its not his forte in the same way.

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      I vaguely remember her debate against Mike pence, her performance was not to impressive. The fly helped. I wonder if they will let her a bit looser on the pedo

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        She’s been VP for a few years since then. I hope she goes for the jugular… (Metharphorically of course. Seeing as maga is suddenly quite shocked about violent language LOL)

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        She’s the VP, and the President’s nomination. She’s already on the ballot, so she has access to existing campaign funds. There are no outspoken challengers, and there are eight weeks until early voting ballots are sent out.

        What do you suggest instead?

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            That’s true. I should have written that she is the named VP of the candidate that received the donations, therefore she is allowed to use them to campaign.

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            Care to share a link or her name? Your comment reads like disengagement propaganda by putting down Harris without supporting your nameless alternative.

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                Williamson didn’t break 10% in the 2020 primary. What makes you think she’s going to capture more of the Democratic vote now?

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                    She has been the fucking VICE PRESIDENT for awhile now, and she’s been an attorney general AND a district Attorney. She does not need to “prove herself”.

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                I remember her from her last campaign. She is pretty articulate on stage, but she has some really fucking loony beliefs. Way too much spirituality and love. That’s a fine message for self-help books, but it was a bad look when Nancy Reagan was dialing Miss Cleo for advice, and it would look even worse today.

                Trump would tear her up one side and down the other.

                You want Kamala to prove herself? The clowns I’ve seen stepping forward - Manchin and now this - aren’t going to prove or disprove anything.

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                  It’s worse than that, IIRC she came this close to saying that the power of positive thinking would drive away covid. She is too far around the horseshoe imo. I’ve known people into the kind of magical thinking she’s into, and it’s really not a good thing.

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                    Biden was a good President - the best going back at least as far as Clinton - and a younger black female version of him would be far from the worst we could do. That being said, no one is worried about DNC manipulation this time. That ship sailed with Bernie. I backed Biden and I said if not him Harris is the only other real choice. And here we are, and I’m feeling good about it.

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        I keep hearing about her unpopularity, but surely it’s related to how she’s got a low profile as VP and before that practically invisible on the country’s stage. Let the direct light shine on her for a period and that will change.