I don’t use it, but i’ll forever call it Twitter.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
    2023·
    4 months ago

    Hey, good news, Elon. Most of us have gone from calling it “twitter” to calling it “that facist shithole that used to be twitter”.

    Good job wasting 43 BILLION dollars only to see it’s traffic literally cut in half, you micro-penised shitstain on society. You will not be remembered as the genius your group of ass kissers tell you you are. You’ll be remembered as being dumber than a one brain celled orange tabby.

    • Yurgenst@sh.itjust.works
      15·
      4 months ago

      That’s giving him too much credit, orange cats are just dumb not evil. He sucks the life of of people, encourages the spread of disease and death. He’s a mosquito. Just an annoying, insignificant bug that will only be remembered for the discomfort he caused.

    • uis@lemm.ee
      103·
      4 months ago

      I thought we always called it “radical shithole”. Not much changed. It’s just SJWs making indie gamedevs suicide were replaced with Christians making everyone else suicide.

      • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
        82·
        4 months ago

        God I hate the pedo hunts, like yeah even if they find real freaks… The fact that so many who weren’t guilty had their lives ruined and in some cases ended over bullshit accusations is offensive, especially since evidence collected in an illicit manner is not admissible in court. Prosecutors call it “Fruit from the Forbidden Tree”

    • Lightor@lemmy.world
      4·
      4 months ago

      Well he did take a fairly neutral platform used to spread ideas and form movements and destroy it. So I’m sure the right and the rich are happy about that.

  • cum@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    1051·
    4 months ago

    X is still such a stupid fucking name. I feel cringe saying that.

  • VantaBrandon@lemmy.world
    99·
    4 months ago

    Its almost funnier to see every news publication constantly refer to it as “X (formerly known as Twitter”), the constant need to remind people of how stupid the decision was it amusing

  • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
    59·
    4 months ago

    Maybe he should buy Alphabet and rename their search engine.

    Ooh or he could buy out Kleenex and rename that.

    What the fuck would make someone throw out the name Twitter? It wasn’t a bad name. It wasn’t like…Phillip Morris or something.

    • pyre@lemmy.world
      48·
      4 months ago

      “wasn’t a bad name” is the understatement of the year. it was one of the most successful brand names ever. normal people with functioning brains would kill to have a brand that’s so ingrained in the language, especially without the threat of genericizing the trademark.

      xerox didn’t want people to use xerox as a generic verb to mean photocopy, or kleenex the same for a generic tissue.

      but Twitter was never used to mean another social media site, and tweeting never means posting on Facebook or Tumblr or whatever. a tweet is specifically a post on Twitter. that’s the perfect brand.

      • rekorse@lemmy.world
        1·
        4 months ago

        Is this just a really bad business deal followed by absurdly poor leadership, but very visible?

        Did Elon make it obvious he had a completely different vision for twitter when he talked about buying it?

        • pyre@lemmy.world
          3·
          4 months ago

          no, but he was always chasing that “everything app”, some Chinese apps are like that and are probably insanely profitable so of course he wanted to do it himself for the US.

          after he was forced to buy Twitter for a ridiculously high price reserved only for the most idiotic and/or insane of all people, he probably “thought” (a generous metaphor i use to describe the activity inside his cromagnon skull) that he might as well just do that with Twitter and hope it eventually makes enough money to make up for the worst high profile business decision in recent memory. that’s why he’s pushed for more functionalities like making Twitter a video platform, and doing meetups or whatever they’re called.

          he wanted “x” to be a thing since before he was really known all that much by the public, and probably felt appropriate with the direction change for Twitter because he still “thought” it would be cool to have something called X because he lives in the past and has the sensibilities of a child who’s desperate to look cool.

          so here we are, take the world’s best known brand name and replace it with a single letter that is widely used to mean unknown. fucking idiot.

          • rekorse@lemmy.world
            1·
            4 months ago

            Not even unknown, in my area x almost always refers to porn. So yeah he destroyed the brand for a name that at worst offends a large group of people .

    • fox2263@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      4 months ago

      He’s been wanting to have an “everything” company named X for years, since before PayPal I think. So he jumped at the chance to ruin twitter of course and rebuild it from the top down

    • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
      14·
      4 months ago

      Maybe he should buy Alphabet and rename their search engine.

      He’d probably do it because of his hatred for “aLphABeT PeOpLE!” like his own kid. That fucking prick. If he were on fire, I’d piss on him, but not at the base of the flames.

    • Zink@programming.dev
      12·
      4 months ago

      I think all he managed to do, other than torching a legendary amount of money, was to create a bunch of easy content for some lazy college students in marketing 101. The ones who don’t want to dig to find something more interesting and nuanced.

  • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
    493·
    4 months ago

    There’s no such thing as deadnaming a company/corporation/brand, they aren’t a living entity and have no will of their own, the one offended is their owner.

  • Agent641@lemmy.world
    42·
    4 months ago

    Is there anything the average person can do to increase the running cost of Twitter without increasing their revenue?

    Like, can we just automate uploading videos of nothing meaningful, and re-loading them over and over forever?

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
    403·
    4 months ago

    It is always morally correct to deadname transphobes. Including JD Vance who’s “Real” name is James Bowman

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
    331·
    4 months ago

    That’s pretty much what I’ve said about Twitter since he changed the name- I’ll keep calling it Twitter while he still allows deadnaming.

    • subignition@fedia.io
      601·
      4 months ago

      Intentionally using the former name (“dead name”) of a (typically trans) person with the intent to cause harm

      • makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml
        6·
        4 months ago

        Okay, now that you’ve edited your comment to clarify, it makes sense. The term dead seemed quite literal in your previous and original text, but now I can see it is a term for that part of society, when they change their name and leave the ordinary behind., and it is insulting to that person.

        Since it wasn’t clear at the start, but that’s okay. Now it makes sense.

        • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
          12·
          4 months ago

          Here’s a deadnaming example that should resonate with conservative women…

          You get married and take your husband’s name, but your parents insist on continuing to call you by your maiden name.

          • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pubEnglish
            7·
            4 months ago

            I wouldn’t just say conservative women, since this is a really good explanation for anyone. My cousin and partner changed their last name to something altogether different when they got married. For them, it wasn’t fair to the one for the other take the first’s family name, so they just chose a new one. It was really hard for the rest of the family (there’s a history with that family name that caused the hardship in its change, and the name holds a lot of weight to the entire extended family). Do you know what didn’t happen, though? Absolutely no one, despite how hard it was for them, called the couple by their former name once they announced the name change. Not even our grandmother, whose family name it was and was carried over from her deceased husband. One of their former friends (not even family), however, refused to accept the name change, and kept calling them by their former name. I would consider that dead naming, too.

            Name changes are hard for the people around you. Not always for malicious reasons. For me, for example, when a trans friend changed names, I kept calling them by the name that was ingrained in my head for a decade. I caught myself, and fixed it during the conversations. I apologized the first few times, and was assured that no apologies were needed, since it was clear I was trying. It took a bit, but the new name has now been associated with them, and I no longer stumble. Some people, I’ve noticed, find it offensive, for some stupid reason, when someone changes their own name, and will absolutely not call them by it. I will never understand that part. It’s not your name–i’s their name ffs–just flippin call them by their preferred name.

            I went off on a tangent, but all this to say that you offered a good, generic, applies-to-all-generations explanation.

        • subignition@fedia.io
          46·
          4 months ago

          I did not edit my comment. Why are you lying?

          Edit: Oh, I did edit it about 30 seconds after posting, to add the first parenthetical. Apologies for outright accusing you of lying. It doesn’t display as edited on my instance when done within the first minute. But you replied 5 minutes after my edit, so I think the odds that you loaded the page within 30 seconds of my original reply are too minuscule to be super convincing.

          • makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml
            5·
            4 months ago

            I guess I hit reply. Started typing.

            You hit edit whilst I was typing. I replied some minutes later.

            Makes perfect sense to me.

          • makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml
            4·
            4 months ago

            Look, if you did not, then that’s fine, but I completely read it differently earlier. To me, it read, as though you said, a dead trans person. That made it so niche that it was bizarre and incomprehensible that anybody would even understand it. But as people have commented below, I now fully understand.

        • Lumelore (She/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          391·
          4 months ago

          It’s not specifically of dead trans people, they meant of all trans people. The term deadname typically refers to the birth name of a trans person that they no longer use.

            • Lumelore (She/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              21·
              4 months ago

              Oh… I’m not very good at determining if people are, so I tend to treat everyone like they are asking in good faith. Maybe at least someone else will see my comment and find it useful I hope.

              • frunch@lemmy.world
                4·
                4 months ago

                This is a good practice, i appreciate what you’re doing. If anything, i occasionally like to respond to posts like that in order to set the record straight for other people who may read the comment. Debating or disproving the commenter isn’t necessary as much as putting correct information right there next to their bullshit. Some people might buy their lies or faux good-faith, but anyone on the fence or unsure will hopefully benefit from having the truth repeated right next to the lie/bs.

          • makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml
            3·
            4 months ago

            Thank you for the clarification. Yes, I can see that the person I replied to has now edited their comment also be more specific. It literally read as though they meant someone who was literally dead, and was trans, which made absolutely zero sense.

        • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          324·
          4 months ago

          That is incredibly niche.

          No, that’s you thinking you’re funny when you troll so poorly.

          I’m sure 99.999% of the population

          Are more amusing than you.

          • makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml
            61·
            4 months ago

            No, the person I replied to has simply edited their comment to be clearer. They originally wrote it as though they meant a literal dead person.

            • subignition@fedia.io
              1·
              4 months ago

              The only thing I added was the first parenthetical to clarify that “dead name” was the term for the former name.

              Reading “the former name of a (typically trans) person” as “the name of a deceased trans person” is still on you :/

        • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          81·
          4 months ago

          Let’s say you knew someone named Bob, who later came out as a trans woman named Sue. If you insisted on calling her Bob instead of Sue, that would be deadnaming.

    • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
      161·
      4 months ago

      When saying the name of a trans person, it’s when you use their previous name from before their transition. E.g. saying Ellen Page instead of Elliot Page.

      Presumably it can also mean just calling someone by their previous name that they prefer to leave behind, even if not trans.

      I have no idea who Musk’s child is and no desire to look it up.

      • marcos@lemmy.world
        45·
        4 months ago

        He (or she, I really don’t remember) became famous from receiving a really bad name.

        • elliot_crane@lemmy.world
          24·
          4 months ago

          This is Musk’s oldest child, she chose the name Vivian when she came out and despite being genetically related to Musk actually seems like a pretty cool person. She went through some legal procedure to remove herself from his family, and IIRC basically walked away from all of that generational wealth because severing connections with an abusive father was worth more to her.

        • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works
          22·
          4 months ago

          Different child, I think. Vivian Wilson is Musk’s trans child who has disowned him. She’s 20 now. I don’t know what her birth name was but “X AE A-XII” was the one born in 2020 that was all over the news for having an absolutely insane name.

          Though most of the rest of his kids names aren’t much better. “Techno Mechanicus Musk” is in that list, as is “Exa Dark Sideræl Musk”. He has 11 children and counting, and their names have gotten increasingly more unhinged as time goes on. So for all I know Vivian did have some insane name that she abandoned.

          Anyway, she changed her last name and disowned her father when she came out as trans and he responded by posting all over Twitter that she had been, and I quote, “killed by the woke mind virus”. As in he literally told the world his child was dead, rather than publicly accept his daughter as the person she is.

          • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
            10·
            4 months ago

            Oh god I thought I couldn’t despise him more, what are those fucking names… Like he played some 40k and also wants to colonize mars so he made a kid named adeptus mechanicus I guess? What an absolute imbecile

        • TallonMetroid@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          4 months ago

          Different kid, actually. IIRC he’s got a bunch of IVF kids with different women because apartheid emerald money is sexy or something, but he couldn’t be bothered to actually fuck them properly. Also couldn’t be bothered to be present in their lives as a dad properly either.

        • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
          51·
          4 months ago

          yeah I was thinking, is it the one with a random sequence of letters, digits and maybe even symbols that I vaguely remember existed at one point? But I still do not care.