• alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    You have to look at the bigger picture, not the short term issue.

    If progressives want to be taken seriously, and if Americans want AIPAC out of politics, then there have to be consequences.

    If Latimer and Bell hold on to the seat, corporate and AIPAC Democrats only learn that they can take progressives for granted.

    If they lose their seat, they learn that they need progressive support to win.

    Yeah, two years of a republican rep will suck. But it’s only two years.

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      5 months ago

      This is missing what I am saying: Protest votes for republicans appear identical to fullthroated support for republicans. There is no “why I voted” short answer on the ballot

      All it does is signal support the (also AIPAC backed) republicans

      It will not be seen as a consequence of not choosing a progressive

      If a republican wins there, you are absolutely not going to see progressive run in that seat. You will see more and more “centrists” run. The long term picture is worse

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        5 months ago

        I don’t think you understand how politics and elections work.

        If people on the flanks give their voting power to “Blue (or Red) no matter who”, you end up with the Clintons and Bushes of the world. Parties have no incentive to actually do anything for their flanks.

        When people on the flanks leverage their voting power effectively, you get MAGA and Justice Democrats.

        Anyway, hope you learned something today. Otherwise, hope you have a nice day.

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          5 months ago

          Let me get this straight. Are you seriously claiming that the MAGA crowd seized control of the GOP by protest voting for Democrats in the general elections?

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          Ok, so basically what you’re saying is that you want democrats to vote red because.yiu also vote red. Glad we cleared that up. Go away.

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          What you are describing happens in primaries.

          If you vote in the general for an R, oddly enough, politicians think you support the R ticket. Way to kneecap progressives guy.