The woman accused of being first to spread the fake rumours about the Southport killer which sparked nationwide riots has been arrested.
Racist riots spread across the country after misinformation spread on social media claiming the fatal stabbing was carried out by Ali Al-Shakati, believed to be a fictitious name, a Muslim aslyum seeker who was on an MI6 watchlist.
A 55-year-old woman from Chester has now been arrested on suspicion of publishing written material to stir up racial hatred, and false communication. She remains in police custody.
Chief Superintendent Alison Ross said: ‘We have all seen the violent disorder that has taken place across the UK over the past week, much of which has been fuelled by malicious and inaccurate communications online.
One false statement by a random woman was like a match lighting the powder keg. I kinda always figured the British were less racist than us Americans…
Apple doesn’t fall far.
Apple is racist too?!
Apples are fruit and thus cannot be racist.
Sounds like something a fruit would say.
The only fruits I’ve interacted with were strictly of the plant-bearing type. I have heard nuts say the weirdest things, but that’s expected from the average republican.
Hello fellow gen-xer who remembers when fruit was a gentler version of the other f-word
i think the apple’s rotten right to the core
They INVENTED modern imperialism, first trialling it in the “Irish plantations” starting in the 16th century, long before America’s colonies. If one could go back in time to stop anything…
All roads lead to Rome.
Before that Greece, before that Persia, before that Assyria, before that Babylonia, before that Egypt, before that Sumeria… Sometime before that Cro Magnon Man. The list gets bigger; The Mongols, Timurids and other turkic groups like the Mughals, the Han…
Even specific to the British Isles (the Angles, Saxons and Jutes; then the Vikings; then the Normans (French descendants of Vikings).
In other words all roads don’t lead to Rome, it’s just a thing that humans do.
Edit: Clarity, Grammar, More Pedantry
with the difference that the old romans preferred to integrate other tribes into their empire and raise their living standards to pacify them - and not slaughter them.
Modern? As in naval ships as command zones in the Middle East modern? Or subverting latin American democracy modern?
That’s postmodern colonization, it’s all “ce n’est pas une colonie”
Britain did in fact refuse to help Simon Bolivar set up democracies in Latin America so… Arguably… The answer is just… Yes? It’s both? They did both of the things?
Migration was the one big issue that carried Brexit. It made them all forget anything else and blindly believe brexiters, if only there were no more brown people coming into the country.
It was the racist vote.
But besides that, there is racism everywhere. How its dealt with is the difference. I’m personally very glad to see the big counter protests now. They have become too confident to be loud about their hate again and we all have to put them back into their place, making it clear that this is not acceptable.
Bro, lol, they’re British…
Like the Empire?
They’re historically so racist they genocided other white people for not being English. Sound like anyone else you can think of?
… Where did you think we got it from? Just look at how the Aussies treated the Aboriginals.
Look at how the <colonists> treated the <indigenous>.
Settle down mate. I’m Australian, and well aware of the mistreatment of Australian aboriginals.
I’m not going to defend the behavior of my forebears, my comment was merely pointing out that this is not a uniquely Australian problem, and that colonisation never goes well for the indigenous.
In prehistory, homo sapiens colonised the entire world and either murdered, massacred, out bred or otherwise displaced competing hominids to the point of their extinction. A pattern repeated the world over ever since. How well are Russians treating Ukranians, or Israelis treating Palestinians ?
How can we dance when our earth is turning? How do we sleep while our beds are burning?
It’s a real mixed bag from what I know. They got rid of slavery much earlier, I don’t think they have the baggage of Jim Crow that US frankly still has. Afaik black people were more accepted in society. But the recent immigration trend changed things and there is real anti Islam sentiment afaik. I’m really not that well versed in it though.
Immigrants always get blamed in troubled times. It’s a story as old as time. If wealth wasn’t so concentrated and everyone had a good job and a nice place and whatever no one would care about migrants.
Yes migrants also get jobs and live in houses but they’re not the underlying cause.
They replaced slavery with indentured servitude.
They didn’t got rid of slavery, they got rid of chattel slavery (with the State paying massive amounts of money to the slave owners) and replaced it with a different kind based on debt.
Just like the idea that Britain isn’t racist, the idea that Britain were the first to end slavery is Image Management Propaganda Bollocks anchored on misrepresenting what actually happens.
Check out the Catholic versus Protestant angle there, always good for a row.
I lived for over a decade in Britain and had both afro-descendant and muslim friends who were discriminated against over there, even before Brexit.
Even I got discriminated against because of being Portuguese (though nowhere are much as they did).
Britain has for long been one of the most rightwing countries in Europe, it’s just that they’re very good at image management and their far right leaders are posh types with upper class education and accents, not slang-using rabble rousing loudmouths with low-class accents.
Brexit didn’t happen in a vacuum.
Kavernacle just did a very succinct video on this exact topic https://youtu.be/JmA-0it04Wk?feature=shared
It really does feel like that right now, as someone who lives in northern England.
I’m Portuguese, lived almost a decade in The Netherlands and then over a decade in Britain.
It’s funny that after some years in Britain, on my own I reached the exact same conclusions as this guy who is local born and bred.
Lol. They’re every bit as racist, if not more so.
WE LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU, DAD
Uhhhh what? Americans are just louder
More like Americans are still relevant. They were still plenty loud when they did the Irish and Bengal Famines.
What’s this mean? Uk racism is very relevant, so is American
How is the UK not relevant in a conversation about the UK?
America’s voice is still relevant to global politics, Britain’s problems get glossed over because they aren’t without the Empire
I always like to say that the USA kept all the worst parts of British culture. That’s not to say that Americans aren’t decent generally speaking. Just that…idk…imperialistic tendencies, systemic racism, highly stratified social class dynamics, random violence…kinda shitty politics dominated by 2 parties who are centre/right and shifting further right.
Well you know its much easier to blame the match than have a little bit of self reflection.
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The British Empire was an egalitarian paradise, imo
Edit: I guess I have to add an /s lmao
You thought wrong, most of the world is more racist than the US
“Oh nooo. It wasnt my fault I just mindlessly spread russian lies and hate about brown people. Who would have thought that words can have consequences?!”
What a … I don’t even have a word for so much, idk mindless hate?
its not consequences until it starts affecting her, which in this case did. I hope other people jointly sue her for damages or sth so that at least she has to go to court and pay lawyer fees
I hope other people jointly sue her for damages
Now that would be interesting to see. With a dynamically updating billboard tallying her dues under the title “Hateful spread of online lies cost this woman GBP xxx”
She owes me £30 since one of the rioters stole my wheelie bin, and I’m still annoyed about it. They made a big pile of everyone’s bins at the end of the street and melted them all, twats.
Edit: also the racism is bad too I suppose.
Well, submit a claim. Every pound of pain helps bringing the point home.
Seems to be a great person 🙄 https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bernie_Spofforth
unfortunately these people are more inclined to make kids than the reasonable ones
Well she has a . . . what’s the opposite of “kindly” . . . face.
callous?
Mmm hmmm mm hmmm. Yes, but more . . . ehhh what’s the word. Malevolent.
Kindly and callous both start with the correct sound…
Yeah, she looks like a bitch. That’s where we were going with this, right?
No, that’s sexist. We don’t need that to rag on her. It’s clear we have enough material to move forward without that.
Backpfeifengesicht?
She’s a cunt
Good. That shitbag should be held accountable for all the harm she caused.
This is surely well educated society - always redy to commit random violence based on some karen troll post…
This has Lynndie England vibes. Sure, culpable. But not the person pulling the strings.
Woman looks like she would tear your heart out with a spoon.
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https://metro.co.uk/tag/muslim/?ico=auto_link_news_P2_LNK2Yay another win for not having such a backward, archaic law like Free Speech ©®™
Edit - Christ on a bike, my most misread comment yet lol
I don’t think free speech covers actual lies, and misinformation.
Individualist ideas of freedom and rights are not as useful to a functioning society as collective freedom and rights.
Freedom to incite a violent attack against a marginalized group isn’t a useful kind of freedom.
Individualists seem not to get this idea.
Your rights end where my rights begin, and conversely, my rights end where yours begin.
While I agree that this is a win overall, even in the US there are limits to free speech; you can’t falsely yell fire in a crowded theatre, threaten an individual with bodily harm, or incite others to do so, without any risk of repercussion.
Unless you’re a Republican of course in which case you can do all of those things.
“…and when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy.”
Should I be allowed to feed rabid folks misinformation to encourage them to murder you and your family, with no repercussions? Yes or no, please no long winded diatribes.
Ali Al-Shakati was the suspect, he was an asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year and was on an MI6 watch list. If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose.
That sounds like she’s repeating a rumor; she even says that it might not be true. Is this illegal in the UK?
“Ali Al-Shakati was the suspect, he was an asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year…” Does not read like restating a rumor
Also, she can’t provide any source where she heard that rumor, almost certainly because she just made it up herself and just threw in the “if true” bit to avoid being held responsible
She says she read it on another post and reposted it, adding in the “if this is true”. She deleted her tweet later on and said that people should’ve been doing their own fact-checking, a comment I found a bit rich considering that she didn’t fact-check before making her own post.
The UK doesn’t have the same freedom of speech as the US, no 1st ammendment. So it very well could be illegal there, Idk.
The British free speech law is that you have free speech unless the government says otherwise.
One might note that’s fucking meaningless, like they’re in a monarchy or some fascist shit like that.
You can have free speech as long as you don’t incite violence. Simple.
She should’ve checked before spreading hateful lies then, will not lose sleep over this.
