• 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍
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    5 months ago

    I must have responded to you with the Wikipedia article about spoiler candidates in First Past The Post election systems at least twice. You either disagree with accepted political science theory, or you’re simply refusing to read it understand it. If it’s the former, it implies that you believe that your gut instincts make you smarter than people who study this field professionally; the latter implies you’re a blind ideologue.

    I would be thrilled if there’s a third option and you are able to respond - even if only with a link; I’m not too lazy to read a paper - to a counter-theory or counter-argument to strategic voting and the political strategy of employing spoiler candidates from an even halfway respectable source.

    It’d also be heartening if you could confirm that you understand the fundamentals of the current US presidential election system, and how it differs from other systems such as Approval, Ranked Choice, STAR, or any other system. Bonus points if you understand what a Condorcet Winner is, and how it relates to the US Presidential General Election. Otherwise, it feels as if you’re thinking with your genitals, or consulting crystals, or something.

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      If the Democrats are worried about anyone “spoiling” their election, then they should get a stronger candidate. I don’t think any 3rd parties spoil anything other than people’s love for only having a duopoly in power. I’ve voting Green Party. Proudly. As is my right.

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        Yes, it’s your right to vote Green. Just as it’s Eric Trump’s right to vote for Donald Trump.

        In doing so, you and Eric make yourselves the enemies of people who want to protect the rights of women and preserve democracy.

        You should, and will, be regarded by Democrats no better than someone wearing a MAGA hat. As is our right.

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          Yes, it’s your right to vote Green.

          It is.

          In doing so, you and Eric make yourselves the enemies of people who want to protect the rights of women and preserve democracy.

          So now I am an “enemy” because I don’t vote for your fav candidate?! Strange wording, but ok. And I am voting for “people who want to protect the rights of women and preserve democracy.” That’s why I’m voting Green Party. And proud of it. In spite of the bullying I am getting here.

          You should, and will, be regarded by Democrats exactly the same as someone wearing a MAGA hat. As is our right.

          Yep, bullying and pressure, sounds about right. Democrats are proving to be exactly the same as Repubilicans.

          But yeah, it is your right to do that. And makes me even more proud to vote for the Green Party! :)

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            5 months ago

            So now I am an “enemy”

            Democrats consider Trump voters their enemy. Why do you think they should treat Stein voters differently?

            Yep, bullying and pressure,

            Nobody is pressuring you.

            The most pathetic thing about Green voters is that they think Democrats are trying to “pressure” them to switch to voting for Democrats. They aren’t, for the same reason they aren’t “pressuring” Eric Trump to switch to voting for Democrats.

            Democratic campaigns focus all of their attention on their base (not you) and undecided voters (also not you). They give zero fucks about reaching Green voters. So they have one thing in common with Republicans: they see Greens as an obstruction that will easily be overcome.

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              Democrats consider Trump voters their enemy. Why do you think they should treat Stein voters differently?

              How about not seeing everyone as your enemy? The republicans do that. And you guys are becoming just like them.

              Nobody is pressuring you.

              Friend, if you have seen the comments I get. lol

              The most pathetic thing about Green voters is that they think Democrats are trying to “pressure” them to switch to voting for Democrats.

              Friend, if you have seen the comments I get. lol

              Democrat campaigns focus all of their attention on their base (not you) and undecided voters (also not you). They give zero fucks about reaching Green voters.

              Now friend, I REALLY have to say you need to see some of the comments I get. lololololol

              But hey, it’s fine. Like you said, I’m not undecided. So I’ll keep voting for my fav party, and they’ll keep mocking me for it. Doesn’t bother me at all. :)

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                OK, “enemy” or not, Democrats and Greens are indisputably opponents. So you should expect to be treated as one.