Nineteen members of Congress are pushing Mark Zuckerberg to explain why Meta has allowed ads for cocaine, ecstasy and other drugs to be shown on Facebook and Instagram.
  • ThePrivacyPolicy@lemmy.caEnglish
    1861·
    3 个月前

    I got an ad once for a group selling stolen credit card numbers too. I must have reported it at least a dozen times but it was always kept up and the report said it didn’t break any rules. It only got removed after I just skipped Facebook reports and reported to the police.

    • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
      90·
      3 个月前

      We get posts here too, and on Reddit

      The posts here get reported and removed very quickly, sometimes within minutes of the account being created or the first post.

      I searched Reddit for the website they were linking and saw the spam posts on Reddit have been up for months.

      Few possible differences:

      • We have a better ratio of users/moderation, where the lower volume of posts means everything can go through human moderators

      • Our users are more actively trying to keep the platform good by reporting spam

      • The incentive here is to create a good online platform. The inventive there is profit. The priorities are different as a result

      • MajorHavoc@programming.devEnglish
        22·
        3 个月前

        Great points.

        I might add:

        I strongly suspect that a much bigger fraction of the free volunteer labor moved here, than anyone has realized.

        Zuck and Spez know how fucked they are, but they’re motivated to downplay the damage to their platforms.

        There’s an unvirtuous cycle where their platforms have under-resourced moderation, which has allowed bot proliferation, which has made unpaid moderation work a shittier job, which causes moderators to leave, which allows more bot proliferation.

        Folks here seem to be saying our moderation tools are objectively poor, but are getting better with each release. So it’s the bot spammers whose life gets harder, over time, here.

      • atrielienz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        3 个月前

        It isn’t just those factors. There’s also the fact that instance owners would rather moderate than get on the wrong side of the law.

    • jeffw@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      212·
      3 个月前

      I’d be shocked if cops did anything with that. Local police are incompetent (and, to be fair, waaay under resourced) when it comes to cybercrimes. Who did you report it to?

      • BakerBagelEnglish
        192·
        3 个月前

        You loval police force is probably the most well funded department of your city’s budget. It’s essentially a jobs program for your towns biggest assholes.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          71·
          3 个月前

          Sure, but they’re under-resourced for cybercrimes. They have a lot of beat cops out giving tickets and beating up black people, but probably nobody who knows anything about credit card scams.

          Local police need a readjustment of priorities and tiers of staff. Ideally we’d have:

          1. no force authorization and no weapons, can only issue citations - these would be your beat cops pulling people over, directing traffic, and responding to minor disputes
          2. detectives - no force authorization, but can investigate crimes - these show up after the crime to collect evidence
          3. armed enforcers - can arrest and use lethal force, and only show up if the first two groups can’t handle it; this is what we have today, but ideally would be a much smaller group than 1

          The cybercrime division would fall under group 2, and would probably be just one or two people trained on that type of detective work.

          Each tier should have a different uniform, so the public knows exactly who they’re dealing with, and each tier would be required to have body cam footage live-streamed to HQ. The first group makes up the biggest part of your force, and which is bigger between 2 and 3 depends on the types of crime that are prevalent in your area.

          • BakerBagelEnglish
            4·
            3 个月前

            It’s not a funding issue, it’s a priorities issue

            • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              3 个月前

              Right, and nobody is claiming they need more funding. It’s a resource issue, they don’t have the resources (i.e. people) to handle cybercrimes, so they hand it off to an org that does (e.g. FBI). They could get the resources by adjusting how they hire (e.g. in my proposal, 1 would be paid less and make up the bulk of the force, leaving more money for 2 and 3), but that’s not how they operate, so they don’t have the resources they need to investigate certain types of crimes.

      • xor@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        5·
        3 个月前

        I guess the police at least are able to order Facebook to remove it (sounds like that’s what happened) but then yeah, as you say, I expect they will have just escalated to the county/state police, if anything

    • Media Sensationalism@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 个月前

      In my experience several years ago, Facebook was actually super fast to take down bad groups. I must’ve been reporting so many and with such reliability that they started coming down instantaneously after reporting them.

  • eestileib@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    54·
    3 个月前

    If the FBI showed up at his office with an arrest warrant you better believe that shit would get fixed in a hurry.

    • woelkchen@lemmy.worldEnglish
      381·
      3 个月前

      If the FBI showed up at his office with an arrest warrant you better believe that shit would get fixed in a hurry.

      But then the FBI would never do anything like that to billionaires.

  • Honytawk@lemmy.zipEnglish
    51·
    3 个月前

    “Because we don’t check the content as long as they pay”

    God I wish he would just say the silent part out loud.

    • dan1101@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      3 个月前

      It’s too much trouble, we would only make 10.1 zillion instead of 10.3 zillion dollars!

  • pop@lemmy.mlEnglish
    47·
    3 个月前

    Wake me up when the “Congress” actually decides to take actions not just ask “questions” after the damage is done and money is made.

    Seems more like election season shenanigans where the government wants to make a last bit effort of making it seem like they’re doing their job but then nothing happens after. Like clockwork.

    • micka190@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      3 个月前

      Wake me up when the “Congress” actually decides to take actions not just ask “questions” after the damage is done and money is made.

      Right. Into Cryo-Sleep you go, then!

    • Pacattack57@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      3 个月前

      Yes this is there way of looking like they’re doing something without having to actually fix it.

      When they fix problems they don’t have ammo to rile up the idiots.

  • Greg Clarke@lemmy.caEnglish
    433·
    3 个月前

    Facebook is the drug. It’s addictive, mind altering, exploits dopamine hits, isolates individuals in bad circles, makes you spend longer on the toilet etc. It’s literally the blue pill.

    • xor@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      29·
      3 个月前

      Too little, too late, though, in classic Congress style

      The Myanmar Rohingya genocide was nearly a decade ago now, and we’re somehow still at the “asking Mark nicely to do a better job of moderation” step, somehow

  • p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.worldEnglish
    26·
    3 个月前

    Like he gives a fuck! He’s just gonna tell them what they want to hear and then he’s going back to making millions off of fakebook

  • Podunk@lemmy.worldEnglish
    24·
    3 个月前

    Shit, this winter, for 3 days strait, i got ads with literal swinging dicks and full on penetration. Reported ads, and moved on. After day three, i deleted the app and only launched from a sandboxed browser with an ad blocker.

    Now, i only open it for the marketplace. The place was cancer anyhow, but that was just too much.

    • KaRunChiy@fedia.io
      6·
      3 个月前

      I found out that in most apps that advertise, the act of hovering on an ad and blocking it greatly increases the chance of seeing the same or similar ads

    • N0x0n@lemmy.mlEnglish
      17·
      3 个月前

      Triggggerd ! Today’s ads are targeted and way more sophisticated than years ago. Maybe watch less porn? 😆

      Edit: Come on guys… You lost your sense of humor? Touch some grass, stop beeing so serious about everything… uuhhhg !

  • kenkenken@fedia.io
    161·
    3 个月前

    But why politicians spread propaganda on social networks? Drug dealers should ask them.