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  • Vanth@reddthat.com
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    3 months ago

    How could one convince you that your philosophical views are bad?

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      3 months ago

      Sorry, I’m completely immovable on the stance that war is bad. Never once has mass human slaughter made the world a better place.

      I understand that, like everything, there are those who disagree. Moral relativism aside, those people are wrong, in the sense that I have zero tolerance for supporting campaigns of mass death.

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        3 months ago

        So if you have an immoveable stance against war, isn’t it just as likely someone out there believes they have a similarly immovable stance in favor of the draft?

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          3 months ago

          Yeah, and that person, unlike me, is evil, because they are able to see human lives as pawns in a political game.

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            3 months ago

            Uh, just to be clear, I’m not actually trying to sway you. Just pointing out to OP, and to you I guess since you’re engaging, that when someone holds an “immoveable stance” as they themselves say, and aren’t open to changing their views, it is highly unlikely one can convince them to change. Like, someone could up to you and say you’re wrong and evil for your views but that probably isn’t going to convince you, right?

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        3 months ago

        Is every alternative preferable to war? For example, should Ukraine have agreed to become part of Russia to avoid war?

      • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        What kind of resources are we talking about here? Clearly it doesn’t help to make you talk to 1 person that holds contrasting views, as that seems to be your starting point. A study of 1000? A study of 100000? An empirical research over 100 years? 500? A meta analysis? 5 people talking to you about it? 10? 100?

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        3 months ago

        So have you tried that with the people who agree with the draft? Did you find it was convincing to them?