Do you think weād react differently today? Thatās a super straight forward question.
If anyone anywhere, regardless of the horrific shit we visited upon them attacked a US territory and killed 20,000 people and took another 4,000 hostage, and we had a Donald Trump in office at the time, what would we do?
This isnāt one of those, āRules for thee, but not for meā kind of situations, is it? Because Iām not doing this to deflect things from Israel, Iām saying WE did it, so at bare minimum we have an obligation to protect the lives of the 20 million people we placed in a death-trap of our making.
About your made up scenario where Natives result to armed resistance in response to an ongoing genocide and decades of violent occupation? I donāt care, I would still support their emancipation. Yes, if people knew the full extent of what how we were treating them as subhumans, people would react differently.
Waitā¦ no it wasnāt. We killed some 940,000 directly and our wars resulted in a cumulative loss of some 4.5 million people.
Whatā¦ Americans didnāt know we were mucking about in the middle east for decades?
You think we wouldnāt do that now, if we lost ten times as many people?
ā¦With Donald Trump as president?
I didnāt ask you if you were a conscientious objector. Unless your name is Donald Trump that means diddly squat. I asked what America would do in that situation if you werenāt lying to yourself.
And when that day comes to pass, do we deserve the death sentence you want to inflict on Israelis? Causeā¦ we already showed what weād do in those circumstances.
Dude, youāre all over the place. Yeah, I know Manufacturing Consent is a thing. I have literally never advocated for Donald Trump. I advocate for Democratic voters to demand more from their representatives, because thatās fundamental to a democracy
Netanyahu is Israelās Donald Trump. Hamas knew exactly what would happen and did it anyway. Just like you know exactly what would happen if the above scenario happened in America.
You just donāt want to say it. Because that would make you a hypocrite. Because accepting your first position, that we need to leave Israel high and dry, applying the same moral standards to us, you might as well be saying, āDeath to America.ā
If you donāt wanna go that far, guess what. Youāve got double standards. And that is a moral conundrum only WE have. Most other countries that have a terrorist attack donāt invade sovereign nations and murder millions of people.
When France had their huge terrorist attack, their PM went on stage and said, āThis will not change us.ā They still accept more Muslim refugees than we ever will.
If anyone doesnāt get to talk shit, itās us. Especially, ESPECIALLY regarding anything in the middle east, because we engineered the whole thing for our benefit. Abandoning 20 million Jews we propped up specifically to draw aggro for us is cowardly. Denying the reality of what we did because you want to pretend youāre really a āgoodā person is laughable.
You live in a house with potable water that comes out of the tap. You have any idea how insane that sounds to most of the world? Just wasting drinking water like that?
All the things you take for granted was built on the blood of others. You live in America, get off your high horse. The name of the game is harm mitigation. You want to cosplay a goody-two-shoes? Thatās nice. Tell it to the 4.5 million people that died because we couldnāt be bothered to make sure Florida got another thousand Gore votes. If youāre an American, youāre ruining things for everyone else, just by existing.
The US has 1/20th of the global population and produces 1/4 of global emissions and waste. 5x the global average. Know those billions that are going to die in places like Africa as global warming accelerates in the coming decades?
Thatās us.
So, if you wanna know why I think your phariasaic platitudes are gag inducingly vile, itās because your vapid single-issue hot take is ACTUALLY harmful to humanity as a whole. Republicans should never be in power. And no, you wanting to play brinkmanship with democracy itself at stake isnāt funny to anyone actually paying attention.
Your lifestyle is only possible because of the absolutely heinous shit we visited upon others. You want them to pack up and leave? First find them a place to go.
Better yet, campaign to bring the 2 million Palestinians HERE. You think people living in Gaza right now wouldnāt immediately accept an offer to come live in America?
Sure, weād have all the problems that we were so eager to inflict on the Israelis. Weāll get bombed, people will die, and weāll probably finally get our share of the terrorist attacks Israel and Europe have been dealing with for decades. But unlike them, weād actually deserve it. And theyād acclimate to secular society a lot faster here than they ever would living there.
Let Israel have the whole thing, and lets see if that changes a damn thing. It wonāt, but at least you will actually learn WHY Jordan and Egypt refuse to accept Palestinian refugees. (Hint: Itās called assassinations and coup attempts)
Do you think weād react differently today? Thatās a super straight forward question.
If anyone anywhere, regardless of the horrific shit we visited upon them attacked a US territory and killed 20,000 people and took another 4,000 hostage, and we had a Donald Trump in office at the time, what would we do?
This isnāt one of those, āRules for thee, but not for meā kind of situations, is it? Because Iām not doing this to deflect things from Israel, Iām saying WE did it, so at bare minimum we have an obligation to protect the lives of the 20 million people we placed in a death-trap of our making.
About your made up scenario where Natives result to armed resistance in response to an ongoing genocide and decades of violent occupation? I donāt care, I would still support their emancipation. Yes, if people knew the full extent of what how we were treating them as subhumans, people would react differently.
9/11 was just my imagination I guess.
Waitā¦ no it wasnāt. We killed some 940,000 directly and our wars resulted in a cumulative loss of some 4.5 million people.
Whatā¦ Americans didnāt know we were mucking about in the middle east for decades?
You think we wouldnāt do that now, if we lost ten times as many people?
ā¦With Donald Trump as president?
I didnāt ask you if you were a conscientious objector. Unless your name is Donald Trump that means diddly squat. I asked what America would do in that situation if you werenāt lying to yourself.
And when that day comes to pass, do we deserve the death sentence you want to inflict on Israelis? Causeā¦ we already showed what weād do in those circumstances.
Dude, youāre all over the place. Yeah, I know Manufacturing Consent is a thing. I have literally never advocated for Donald Trump. I advocate for Democratic voters to demand more from their representatives, because thatās fundamental to a democracy
Donāt change the subject, man.
What would we do? You know the answer.
Netanyahu is Israelās Donald Trump. Hamas knew exactly what would happen and did it anyway. Just like you know exactly what would happen if the above scenario happened in America.
You just donāt want to say it. Because that would make you a hypocrite. Because accepting your first position, that we need to leave Israel high and dry, applying the same moral standards to us, you might as well be saying, āDeath to America.ā
If you donāt wanna go that far, guess what. Youāve got double standards. And that is a moral conundrum only WE have. Most other countries that have a terrorist attack donāt invade sovereign nations and murder millions of people.
When France had their huge terrorist attack, their PM went on stage and said, āThis will not change us.ā They still accept more Muslim refugees than we ever will.
If anyone doesnāt get to talk shit, itās us. Especially, ESPECIALLY regarding anything in the middle east, because we engineered the whole thing for our benefit. Abandoning 20 million Jews we propped up specifically to draw aggro for us is cowardly. Denying the reality of what we did because you want to pretend youāre really a āgoodā person is laughable.
You live in a house with potable water that comes out of the tap. You have any idea how insane that sounds to most of the world? Just wasting drinking water like that?
All the things you take for granted was built on the blood of others. You live in America, get off your high horse. The name of the game is harm mitigation. You want to cosplay a goody-two-shoes? Thatās nice. Tell it to the 4.5 million people that died because we couldnāt be bothered to make sure Florida got another thousand Gore votes. If youāre an American, youāre ruining things for everyone else, just by existing.
The US has 1/20th of the global population and produces 1/4 of global emissions and waste. 5x the global average. Know those billions that are going to die in places like Africa as global warming accelerates in the coming decades?
Thatās us.
So, if you wanna know why I think your phariasaic platitudes are gag inducingly vile, itās because your vapid single-issue hot take is ACTUALLY harmful to humanity as a whole. Republicans should never be in power. And no, you wanting to play brinkmanship with democracy itself at stake isnāt funny to anyone actually paying attention.
Your lifestyle is only possible because of the absolutely heinous shit we visited upon others. You want them to pack up and leave? First find them a place to go.
Better yet, campaign to bring the 2 million Palestinians HERE. You think people living in Gaza right now wouldnāt immediately accept an offer to come live in America?
Sure, weād have all the problems that we were so eager to inflict on the Israelis. Weāll get bombed, people will die, and weāll probably finally get our share of the terrorist attacks Israel and Europe have been dealing with for decades. But unlike them, weād actually deserve it. And theyād acclimate to secular society a lot faster here than they ever would living there.
Let Israel have the whole thing, and lets see if that changes a damn thing. It wonāt, but at least you will actually learn WHY Jordan and Egypt refuse to accept Palestinian refugees. (Hint: Itās called assassinations and coup attempts)