• मुक्त@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    3 months ago

    phone number isn’t just any metadata; it is the anchoring data around which the rest of metadata is collected, and it is also connected to govt/corporate verified real identity.

    why would anyone even claim to offer privacy around such an anchor ?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      Exactly, especially when we’re talking about the US government that has access to all the data from other large US based media companies like Google and Meta. We know this for a fact thanks to Snowden leaks. Once you have a phone number, you know the identity of the person, and you can trivially cross reference all the other data to see if that person is of interest. And thanks to their Signal connection graph, the government can easily tell what other people they communicate privately with.

      • zingo@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        And thanks to their Signal connection graph, the government can easily tell what other people they communicate privately with.

        So what? I’m sure your neighbor couple talk privately to each other most of the time and you know that happens. The important part is that the conversation is private.

        Signal is not an anonymous messenger app. It never claimed to be. It’s for you to have a private conversation where your device holds the encryption keys.

        Not like WhatsApp, where Meta has access to the keys of all conversations. Also 95 % of the worlds population is on WhatsApp, so why don’t you go and complain to them for lack of privacy and security?

        If you want an “anonymous” chat client they are out there to use. Good luck getting more people onboard other than your savy friend.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          If you understand that this information is being leaked, and that’s not part of your threat profile that’s perfectly fine. The problem is that a lot of people don’t seem to understand the implications of Signal harvesting phone numbers, and therefore make bad assumptions regarding the safety of using Signal. It’s pretty clear that a lot of people aren’t conscious about this in this very thread in fact.

        • मुक्त@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          Signal’s use case is “authentic communication”. like when a govt person interacts with other govt person and doesn’t want a second govt to snoop on the actual contents on the communication, but accepts that metadata is public.

          It is whatsapp for such people, without being whatsapp.

          But then why would you use whatsapp either ?