I still have people telling me that 15/hr is too generous.
People gotta start getting angry enough to organize with other angry people.
Meanwhile CEO pay rose 1460% since 1978 https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2021/
The execs use those untaxed resources to lobby and keep things in their favor, and so the cycle continues
So it has been with all political carrots in the United States my entire adult life, regardless of who is in charge, which is why I don’t believe in nations or electoralism anymore
Math is objective use math
And yet a local Domino’s Pizza around here is still offering the same $12 an hour rate and advertising a manager salary of $25k a year! Corporations never learn and people wonder why customer service is so crappy.
I remember growing up in the 90’s and being acutely aware of the growing minimum wage. I knew no matter what that when I was able to get a job I would be guaranteed “this” amount and always thought about prices and how long I had to work to get something I wanted when I was an adult. Every small bump made it a little mini-celebration like I was getting a future raise that would allow me to have a better life.
Now? Shake and bake costs over 5$, I have to literally work over an hour to buy half a cup of “convenient” seasoned bread crumbs. I could buy the flour, make the bread, and process it to make my own… but now I’m out of time in the day to work enough to actually afford the meat or any other side item. Oh yeah, and at some point I should pay my bills and save for retirement -_-
Buy bread chop it up season and put in the oven at a low temp till it’s as dry as you want
You know, it’s comments like this that make me laugh and realize how much of a privileged life someone has. Anyone saying, “Oh, it only takes 10 mins to make bread crumbs!”, has never actually been required to make all of their food homemade. Let’s take a journey and use a generic recipe.
- bake at 275 degrees until dry, about 10-to-15 minutes
ok so maybe 15 mins, preheat oven, getting it all ready, maybe like 30 mins but very relaxed. Lowest priced loaf of bread is $1.39 at a local grocer (it’s a horrible brand that’s more airpockets and made from the cheapest ingredients possible but it’s still counts as bread).
- Add them to the food processor, and process them until coarsely crumbed.
Oh shit, now I need a food processor (cheapest is 40 on amazon and walmart), or I could stand at a blender for 2 hours doing one handfull at a time (if I have a blender). Wait, wasn’t this only suppose to take 10 mins?
Ok let’s just chop the bread by hand, now we’re about an hour into the process after it cools and is chopped. But I wanted shake n’ bake, so let’s head over to this recipe.
- Mix all ingredients in a large bowl until evenly mixed and the bread crumbs are no longer ‘clumpy’ from the oil.
Let’s see here, Vegetable oil ($2.99), Salt ($0.79), Dried onion flakes ($2.19), Paprika ($1.29), Sugar ($3.19), Garlic powder ($1.29), Ground black Pepper ($2.29), Cayenne ($2.49), Parsley ($2.19), Basil ($2.59), Oregano ($2.49). (all cheapest prices listed from local grocer, nothing premium)
So now we’re at over 25$ for the homemade shake and bake ingredients. 65$ if I want a food processor to keep this under an hour. Oh yeah, I hope I have foil, baking sheets, sanitary plastic bags to “shake” it, a long term storage container for the amount I’m making. I’m over $100 as a fresh person starting life to make bread crumbs. 2 hours between prep and time spent getting ingredients… and I have bread crumbs, guess I’ll start actually cooking the meal!
You can make excuses for people that already have some of the required items, but generically you can’t make that statement unless they’re privileged and have hand me downs or time to bargain shop for cheaper appliances. It all costs in the long run and with homemade you’re paying with your time that no one has. The whole point of the shake and bake was a convenience for overworked families trying to continue to participate in society in a “healthy” way. If you can’t afford “convenience” as a worker, then you’re not getting paid enough.
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Way to miss the fucking point… 🙄
Cheaper than buying pre made and you don’t have to make bread, 10 min of work
Way to miss the fucking point… 🙄
When they’re so stupid you can just keep copy pasting your reply lmfao. This is rich. Unlike the rest of us.
At some point, it’s best to just reply “you’re an idiot” until they go away.
You’re obviously lazy and willing to wast money on premade shit that is now expensive and terrible for your health
Shake N bake is flour and seasoning, make it yourself ffs
Dude, you keep missing the point. Instead of stubbornly arguing the same thing, maybe reread and spend some time thinking and trying to understand the conversation you’re participating in so you don’t look so foolish.
Oh I getbthe point, KD usednto be 25c a box now is $3
But that’s what you get for “convenience”
So now I’m out the cost of materials AND the time to make it AND the cost of running the oven. That’s probably a net loss compared to just buying the breadcrumbs. And the breadcrumbs are still overpriced.
While i share your sentiment, you still missed the point.
There should be no profits, no bonuses, and no dividends until every worker (not employee, it doesn’t matter what your relationship with the company is if they benefit from your labour) is making at least a living wage with full benefits. Executive pay should be capped at a multiple of the pay of the lowest paid worker or of the average pay paid to all workers. whichever is lower.
Profit is theft, labor that is not compensated in accordance with its value.
The owners/investors deserve to origin but so do the workers. All of the profit going to the owner/investors is theft. That’s why I say that there should be no profit, bunnies or dividends until everyone is fairly compensated and the profit should be shared with the workers in proportion to their contribution which is huge. No workers, no company, no profit.
Friendly reminder to people in similar positions that the fact I barely make a living wage as a nurse doesn’t mean the techs with less education than me that I supervise shouldn’t. In fact, if they’re making a living wage, that leaves room for me to advocate to make even more myself. This fight is about us taking from the rich, not from each other, and I refuse to let them control the narrative like that.
It should also be said that just because I already paid my student loans off doesn’t mean I don’t want other people to be in debt. Student loan forgiveness needs to be up there with the livable wage.
Yaaas. Let’s uplift each other people! Your fellow workers are NOT the enemy!
There’s some double negation confusion at work here, but I think you wrote that you do want other people to be in debt ;)
Yes. You’re right. Thankfully it seems everyone understands what I meant though. 😊
does your student debt accrue interest?
Probably not after it was paid off
you never know with America
There are two types of loans: subsidized and subsidized. The subsidized loans do not accrue any interest, as the fed pays that for you. Unsubsidized loans do accrue interest; typically a lower rate than regular loans (mine were 6%). Student loans cannot be discharged through bankruptcy.
That is not correct. Subsidized loans accrue interest, but only starting six months after graduation or when you drop below half-time enrollment.
And the rate is the same for subsidized and unsubsidized, currently 6.53%. https://studentaid.gov/understand-aid/types/loans/interest-rates
My loans were over 20 years old. Things have changed since then.
Yes, enough where its possible to have your student debt die after you.
This fight is about us taking from the rich, not from each other.
Beautiful stated, cutting right to the heart of the matter.
It isn’t about taking from the rich either. It’s about letting THEM take less, so there’s more for everyone else. Slight distinction, but they are the ones taking, not the workers.
They want us fighting eachother, strong move to realize that and put the blame where it belongs.
Tech here!
/hug!!
tbh I might not have bothered getting licensed if not for the pay (and getting ditched out on the unit w/ violent pts & no meds or restraints).
Thank you for the work that you do, and every person working in a hospital today ❤️
Ever considered OR? I’m a surgical tech now but in nursing school, plan is to just switch over to the dark but stay at the same hospital.
One patient at a time. No crazy family members. It’s chill as fuck behind that red line!
The cost of living will just keep going up because inflation is necessary in our current, debt based monetary system. The Fed tries to keep this under control by not allowing the rate of inflation to go much beyond about 2% a year. The recent inflation issue we’ve been having wasn’t about inflation suddenly happening where it hadn’t been happening before, it was about the rate of inflation increasing beyond the Fed’s 2% target. When they talk about inflation getting back under control, they’re talking about the rate of inflation getting back to near 2%. But make no mistake: prices are still going up - they have to, that’s how the system works - and they will keep going up every year, seemingly indefinitely. For this reason, a cost of living raise equal to at least the rate of inflation is absolutely essential, otherwise workers are getting a pay cut.
But this is further complicated by the fact that the core inflation numbers are very broad. Housing costs are exploding. Core inflation would be much lower if not for rising housing costs. But the way housing costs increases are measured is by averaging housing costs across all markets, meaning the cost of housing in low demand areas is averaged with the cost of housing in high demand areas. This means that if you live in a high demand area, the core inflation rate doesn’t necessarily capture the true cost of living in your area, and that the cost of living in your area is going up much faster than the national average. Therefore, many workers need an annual cost of living increase that is much greater than the national inflation rate.
As far as I know, there is no national law requiring companies to give cost of living raises every year. Many companies do, but many don’t. A mandatory, annual cost of living raise is something that unions can negotiate, once again showing the value of unions.
If you want the meat robot to work for you, you need to pay the upkeep for the meat robot.
That includes power (food), repairs (health insurance) and upgrades (education).
If you can’t afford that, you can’t afford to have a meat robot on your staff.
I wonder what will happen when steel robots take our jobs
Robots able to do physical labor are complex. In the incredibly immense supply chain required to built them it will be possible to sabotage multiple sections.
Alse electronics can be hurt in ways that biology is immune. Mostly electromagnetic warfare, like signal jammers etc.
I prefer not using violence. However, if the owner class is unable to care for the rest of us, we will have to take matters into our own hands.
More time for revolution
Those things still apply to robots too.
Minimum wage should have been $15/hr at least 10 years ago.
Here it’s north of $40/hr
All by design
This is the primary reason that inflation exists—so that business/corporations (the owner class) can steal more of your hard-earned money.
